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re: Canada and Orgeron : The story

Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Jabstep
Member since Jul 2014
2132 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:51 am to
Has to be more to it than that
Posted by LSU BASEBALL13
Member since May 2014
873 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:52 am to
Are you serious?? The times Brennan was in he put the passes in there quick. Definitely harder/quicker than Etling
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34518 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:52 am to
Sounds to me like Canada is cut out to be a head coach, not just an OC
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29173 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:52 am to
yes it makes my blood boil just to think about it. at least miles was straight up about doing his own thing. orgeron is a snake.
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41175 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:52 am to
A fricking defensive line coach thinking he knows offense. Classic, man.
Posted by Tiger roar73
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2014
38 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:53 am to
The way you have presented this and your other posts, they seem legit... Thanks for the enlightenment of just how screwed LSU is as a program.... Either you have sauces or you have an incredible imagination...
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23472 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:53 am to
quote:

He doesnt have the arm strength of Etling.


Did you watch him play this year? He has twice the amount of zip on his passes as Etling. He gets the ball out quicker and throws harder. He definitely needs to beef up, but arm strength didn’t look to be a problem for him.
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Canada has a short fuse. This is true on every level. Likely why his relationships with schools end rather quickly. But the man is an offensive genius. If he had his way, the florida game likely wouldnt have been close. But that is neither here nor there. What stands is that him being let go was almost assured that day. To further point this out, the same problem was presented vs alabama. If you found it odd that Brennan went in with 2 or so minutes left, your feeling is justified. That was a public "frick you" to Canada, who was calling for Brennan all game.


If this is true, it demonstrates that O, in addition to bringing absolutely nothing strategically, is a toxic, petty manager of people.

If LSU were run by people who knew what they were doing, O would have never been hired.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:53 am to
quote:

Has to be more to it than that


Canada has a short fuse and Orgeron is a perpetual bubbling volcano himself. This is a "how to make toast" recipe for problems in the workplace.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14897 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:54 am to
If half of this is true, then hire Ensminger and let nature take its course. A great OC can’t fix what’s broken.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
9729 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:54 am to
quote:

He doesnt have the arm strength of Etling


Posted by TenthTiger
Member since Jan 2018
262 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:54 am to
More than just the Florida game? Oh yes, a ton more to it.

This is the most relevant information I have however.

Meaning this gives the general idea.

To sit through and write everything ive heard on the two would be awful and not really present any new knowledge than what this post would give you.

I like my presented knowledge to be clear and precise. Guessing games and cryptic tones do not a good writer make.
This post was edited on 1/10/18 at 8:55 am
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Normally it is bad practice to go above your bosses head and talk to his boss, but in this case it may have been justified. 


It's always a bad practice.
Posted by evantiger
stanford
Member since Nov 2007
362 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:54 am to
Oh it helps. Just goes to prove what a clusterfrick this was when A=Hole Alleva hired this buffoon as Head Coach. Thanks for the information. Terrible times ahead for the Tiger nation I'm afraid.
Posted by minvielle
Youngsville, LA
Member since Nov 2014
3861 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:55 am to
We are so screwed. This guy is going to make us jealous of the hallman era
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:55 am to
quote:

4D chess?

Putting an inexperienced QB in while down on the road to Bama with hardly any time left was suicidal.


Well...yeah. Most of this entire debacle is fairly obvious. The fact that some won't, or can't, see it doesn't make their takes on this board any less mind-boggling.

If Brennan going in at that point did not make you go, "What in the ACTUAL frick?!?" as an LSU fan, then I'm not sure you can be helped.
Posted by boodro
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2013
872 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:55 am to
Posted by Manswers
Michigan
Member since Feb 2009
3619 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:55 am to
quote:

If half of this is true, then hire Ensminger and let nature take its course. A great OC can’t fix what’s broken.


No. Everyone needs to be held accountable now. If Alleva won't fire O now and simply hand the team over to Aranda and hire an elite OC, he needs to be fired, too.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Canada still called plays, but they were often changed last second by O and sometimes overridden completely



I'm sorry. I do not believe this part.

I'm not saying the OP was not "told" this. I just do not accept everything said as fact and I do not think this is true.


It is a common complaint and a very uncommon occurrence. Might it have happened a time or two? I suppose. But, not often.

A head coach can "handcuff" the plays called (see Troy). Or, call for more "rushes" and fewer "passes", etc. But, to hear a call, change the call, etc? Nah. Not realistic for more than a play or two.
Posted by rstamp1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
1121 posts
Posted on 1/10/18 at 8:56 am to
Brennan has a way stronger arm. Etling puts more touch on his deep ball because he doesn’t have the arm to fire the ball. Brennan gets the ball to the WR much quicker.
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