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re: Do you accept the notion of the Big Bang as the origin of our universe?

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Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:10 pm to
It is the most likely explanation we have based on the evidence
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:10 pm to
I guess if you define "religious people" so narrowly as to exclude brilliant scientists, physicists, philosophers, etc who understand spheres of inquiry--again a straw man tactic--then you have a point. A weak and meaningless one.
Posted by CrimsonTideMD
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:11 pm to
Matrix/hologram universe > big bang
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:11 pm to
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A weak and meaningless one.


Just like your book.

ETA: what’s your theory for the origin of the universe?
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Martini
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:14 pm to



Bang bang
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Posted by LucasP
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:16 pm to
All the great theologians like Hester Carries and myself have concluded that yes, the big bang happened and yes it was caused by God. But no, he didn't do it on purpose.


Despite his best intentions, God is a bit of an idiot, as far as deities go. So we must praise him and love him, but most of all we must be patient with him. He's still figuring a lot of things out.

Evidence:

Checkmate, everyone else.

Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:17 pm to


Upvote for you. I personally would have chosen the duck billed platypus but I see why you did what you did.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:19 pm to
Yes.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:22 pm to
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duck billed platypus


Excellent suggestion but this is a religion founded by my colleague and myself some time ago. I'm afraid the kiwi is quite the cornerstone and non-negotiable. A platypus could be quite the compelling supportive argument though. I'll bring it up at the next council meeting.

In the meantime, could I interest you in some free literature?
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:22 pm to
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Just like your book.


Which book? I haven't finished writing any of them yet unless you include my children's books, and yes those fit that bill, intentionally.

I'm currently reading one of my best friend's latest mystery novel. You should check it out. Written In Blood, by Layton Greene.

I am also wading through Chuck Taylor's A Secular Age. He's one of those guys who understands how to question instead of clinging to dogma out of fear. Next up is Alvin Plantinga.

I'll let you know how that goes.

I find this stuff absolutely fascinating. And it's particularly interesting to me in the context of truth and meaning--Qoheleth (and Sartre) say: if your origin is meaningless and your destiny is meaningless then admit your life is too. Expand, contract, die.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:23 pm
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:25 pm to
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if your origin is meaningless and your destiny is meaningless then admit your life is too. Expand, contract, die.


All of our lives are meaningless. What’s your point?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:26 pm to
LINK


Really good BBC documentary on the beginning of the universe. Well put together.

Edit: LINK

And part 2 about the end of it.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:29 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:27 pm to
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ETA: what’s your theory for the origin of the universe?


Is there but one universe? My theory is, I like reading the theories of people who are a lot smarter than I am, and they are fascinating from a scientific perspective. I haven't quite developed my own unique one yet, sorry.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:28 pm
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:28 pm to
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All of our lives are meaningless. What’s your point?


Why do you care?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:28 pm to
Human understanding of the universe is on par with an ant’s understanding of calculus. Man is such a pitifully arrogant creature to believe he knows jack shite.

Knuckle draggers at best, yet think we are so smart......
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:28 pm to
Big Bang seems like bullshite
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:30 pm to
I wouldn’t say that, weve made tremendous progress - especially over the past hundred years.
Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:30 pm to
Good answer. Way to not show any commitment to anything you believe
Posted by ninthward
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:30 pm to
No, because what was there before? Nothing?
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 1/3/18 at 10:32 pm to
In the beginning was nothing and nothing exploded.

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That the universe from everything we can tell originated from an infinitely dense singularity and experienced an extrodinarily rapid inflation resulting in the universe we see today?


You forgot to mention that it was infinitely hot.

How can something that is infinitely dense be infinitely hot? Stuff must be moving to be hot, but it can't move if it is infinitely dense.
This post was edited on 1/3/18 at 10:34 pm
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