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Consumers should be able to buy vehicles directly from the factory
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:48 am
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:48 am
Cut out the stealerships in 2018. I really don’t care what benefit they provide. If people want to go to a stealership, they can, but people should also be able to go to factory and purchase a car directly at a rock bottom price. It’s archaic how that’s illegal still.
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Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:49 am to Parmen
Buy from auctions...pretty much factory prices!
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:49 am to Parmen
Agree.
The current system is nothing more than a protectionist racket in favor of entrenched local interests.
The current system is nothing more than a protectionist racket in favor of entrenched local interests.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:50 am to Parmen
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It’s archaic how that’s illegal still.
rent-seekers gonna seek
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:51 am to Parmen
I don't disagree with your point, but let's list people products we can buy from the factory...
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:51 am to Parmen
You want to force factories to hire salesmen and have service departments? They don't want to deal with the public because the public is stupid.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:52 am to Parmen
This seems like it should be on the OT.
Now, suppose the factory is in MI and you are in LA. How much is it going to cost to ship the vehicle, one at a time, rather than in a big bunch on a truck? What about test drives? Defects? Scratches? What if the car shows up in wrong configuration? What if the car shows up with 500 miles on it?
Not sure I want to go through those potential hassles and take money away from fellow locals that need jobs. A car is a big purchase. Helping a salesman with some commission is just part of the deal.
Now, if we talk about maintenance and warranty issues, then I think there's some room to re-structure things for sure.
Now, suppose the factory is in MI and you are in LA. How much is it going to cost to ship the vehicle, one at a time, rather than in a big bunch on a truck? What about test drives? Defects? Scratches? What if the car shows up in wrong configuration? What if the car shows up with 500 miles on it?
Not sure I want to go through those potential hassles and take money away from fellow locals that need jobs. A car is a big purchase. Helping a salesman with some commission is just part of the deal.
Now, if we talk about maintenance and warranty issues, then I think there's some room to re-structure things for sure.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:52 am to Parmen
That would put too many people out of work. Do you realize that thinks like this are put in place to provide jobs. Most people in the world are fricking idiots. Jobs are created for people to prevent us from becoming a Venezuela. Most people go to work and come home and drink and watch football or grill out or whatever because they are too fricking stupid to do anything else. We create jobs to occupy the time and minds of morons so they won't become a problem. Let them be.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:53 am to Parmen
It varies state by state. It's not a national thing. In soe states you can buy a Tesla directly. In some you can't.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:53 am to Parmen
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Cut out the stealerships in 2018. I really don’t care what benefit they provide. If people want to go to a stealership, they can, but people should also be able to go to factory and purchase a car directly at a rock bottom price. It’s archaic how that’s illegal still
Surprised one of the big auto manufacturers have not tried it yet, not sure if it would work but would be an interesting proposition.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:54 am to Parmen
quote:What? And miss out on the wonderful buying experience and incredible customer service from dealerships?
Consumers should be able to buy vehicles directly from the factory
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:54 am to Parmen
Tesla already does this and with them not having dealerships, they are not allowed in the Detroit Auto show.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:55 am to Parmen
As posted from a decive you didn't buy directly from a factory. All new factories should be forced to have an attached storefront open to the public
Posted on 12/22/17 at 8:58 am to Parmen
Sounds good...but who will help honor all the warranty work and system to keep your car on the road?
Let's take Rolex as an example....if broken under warranty, you take it off your wrist and send it in for repairs and wait a month or so (strictly an example and may not be exactly accurate)
What would you do with your broken warrantied car? I'm in no way advocating for dealers, I'm simply asking how you expect the factory to get service and support in every city in the civilized world?
But I DO agree, sticking with Rolex model, the factory should set the pricing and all dealers are bound by the pricing. And the factory would have severe pressure to stay efficient enough to have high quality low priced cars put out.
Let's take Rolex as an example....if broken under warranty, you take it off your wrist and send it in for repairs and wait a month or so (strictly an example and may not be exactly accurate)
What would you do with your broken warrantied car? I'm in no way advocating for dealers, I'm simply asking how you expect the factory to get service and support in every city in the civilized world?
But I DO agree, sticking with Rolex model, the factory should set the pricing and all dealers are bound by the pricing. And the factory would have severe pressure to stay efficient enough to have high quality low priced cars put out.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 9:03 am
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:02 am to Parmen
Mark up on everything is out of control. Vehicles are probably the worst, but I just spent 8k on a gate opener so my wife can drive her marker up vehicle through without stopping to move the gate. Unreal. 
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:03 am to Parmen
Sometimes you basically can do that with a new car when customizing it online. They then charge you a delivery fee, so the dealership gets something but it usually ant much.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:05 am to Parmen
And exactly what would change for the customer? The costs of the dealership are incurred because they provide a value to the consumer and a necessary touch point/buffer between the consumer and car maker. Eliminate the dealer and those things the dealer provided would now be the burden of the manufacturer and the cost of that burden would still be passed to the consumer.
You assume falsely that the cost of a Tesla would be more if there was a dealer involved when it is likely exactly the same. The difference is that Tesla is just getting both the profit on the manufacturing and the sale of car. Their choice to do this was based on “speed to market” not fairness or benefit to consumer.
You assume falsely that the cost of a Tesla would be more if there was a dealer involved when it is likely exactly the same. The difference is that Tesla is just getting both the profit on the manufacturing and the sale of car. Their choice to do this was based on “speed to market” not fairness or benefit to consumer.
This post was edited on 12/22/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:12 am to Parmen
I’d love it once my truck gets 100 mpg
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:15 am to Parmen
The factory doesn't want to have to deal with all the individual customers that's why they have dealerships.
Posted on 12/22/17 at 9:20 am to Parmen
Just buy used. I find vehicles with super low miles on them all the time. I bought my wife’s car with under 8,000 miles on it. Paid 10K less than MSRP.
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