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re: Let’s get this clear once and for all: the internet is NOT a utility
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:26 am to Errerrerrwere
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:26 am to Errerrerrwere
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but no one really thinks the intrawebs is being taken away from us for good, do we?
Of course not, that's never been what we were talking about.
We are talking about it being a utility in the way we live and do business in 2018. The fact that you don't use the internet to research and examine comparable properties and the like is borderline negligent to your clients. I cannot imagine your estimators are so similarly lazy.
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:28 am to Tigerlaff
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Now, its "people won't have access to the internet for basic everyday functions like paying bills, applying for jobs, etc."
Which is why them crowing about "everyone agreeing with them" today is silly.
What's going to happen is that 99% of their "oh my God, you won't be able to........" won't have happened.
They'll be able to point to a few things that affected damned near no one for any period of time.
And, the public that is "outraged" today will be like, "meh, guess it wasn't a big deal".
And, just like when liberals over used the word "racist", they'll be looked at as Chicken Little's.......AGAIN
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:28 am to NYNolaguy1
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Right, I am sure they will get right on that.
They? If this is such a big deal, shouldn't it start with you? Not writing any letters to your reps? Not looking into joining an anti-trust qui tam action?
If the only thing saving you from big bad ISPs was a flimsy regulation from an ever-changing political agency board, then I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:28 am to ShortyRob
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See. Now you're being lazy again.
No I am just pointing out a bad analogy.
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You guys can't seem to think past the scary part. You hit the scary part, and the world stops for you.
Generally because most people want to stop scary things before they happen.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:29 am to Errerrerrwere
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I’m a GC
Every swinging dick with a hammer, saw and old crappy truck calls himself a general contractor these days.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:30 am to sealawyer
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We are talking about it being a utility in the way we live and do business in 2018.
Such antiquated thinking.
You guys love to make fun of old people so, I'm gonna reverse that.
In 20 years, my 8 and 9 year old are going to access this old rhetoric and be like, "what were you old frickers talking about!!!"
And YOU'LL be the old frickers.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:30 am to ShortyRob
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What's going to happen is that 99% of their "oh my God, you won't be able to........" won't have happened.
They'll be able to point to a few things that affected damned near no one for any period of time.
And, the public that is "outraged" today will be like, "meh, guess it wasn't a big deal".
See Budget Sequestration of 2013
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:30 am to ShortyRob
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With or without NN, the majority of American customers in 10 years were going to be accessing their internet via wireless connections.
I am curious how you think the connection being wireless changes the debate.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:31 am to sealawyer
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The fact that you don't use the internet to research and examine comparable properties and the like is borderline negligent to your clients. I cannot imagine your estimators are so similarly lazy.
If I’m investing; I have an agent.
What exactly are you getting at? Yes, I use the internet for my business. It doesn’t mean I HAVE TO USE the internet for my business.
But then again, I will continue to use the internet for my business, even after the decision was made yesterday.
Your M.O. seems to be fear mongering. My business won’t change due to that.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:32 am to HubbaBubba
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Every swinging dick with a hammer, saw and old crappy truck calls himself a general contractor these days.
I would put my net worth and assets up against yours any day, bub.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:32 am to NYNolaguy1
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Generally because most people want to stop scary things before they happen
Well, I mean. There it is. Liberal ideology in a nutshell.
It's child like thinking. Impossible to overcome.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:32 am to ShortyRob
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In 20 years, my 8 and 9 year old are going to access this old rhetoric and be like, "what were you old frickers talking about!!!" And YOU'LL be the old frickers.
No way man, I am going to be a day 1 early adapter to the super-matrix VR world that comes next.
(No, you are totally right though, I don't even have an instagram).
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:32 am to Tigerlaff
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See Budget Sequestration of 2013
Truth.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:34 am to NYNolaguy1
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I am curious how you think the connection being wireless changes the debate.
I'm curious as to how you don't see that it would.
Quick. Tell me why wired connections are, to use your words, "monopolies"?
Type it out and for frick's sake, if you can't answer your own question when you're done, I can't help you.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:35 am to Errerrerrwere
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It doesn’t mean I HAVE TO USE the internet for my business.
Ok, well I do, and I have to upload and download massive documents from it daily. So for me, the internet is a fundamental utility in how I do my job.
I personally am a libertarian, so I think the market will correct, but that doesn't mean that the internet is not a utility, which is your whole point. NOT, whether people are overreacting.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:36 am to Errerrerrwere
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Like electricity, water, or gas.
And it isn’t essential for life. That is all.
Didn't know electricity and gas were essential for life. However, it does spin the narrative
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:36 am to Errerrerrwere
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I would put my net worth and assets up against yours any day, bub.
Well, yeah, duh, you can't have student loans if you didn't go to school, so yeah, you probably had a couple hundred grand head start on him.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:37 am to ShortyRob
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I'm curious as to how you don't see that it would.
Quick. Tell me why wired connections are, to use your words, "monopolies"?
Actually from the beginning of this debacle the phrase I prefer is "telecom industry".
Theres only slightly more competition among wireless carriers, but they are just as bad at allowing competition as the cable companies are.
Theres no shortage of collusion between either group.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:37 am to sealawyer
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Well, yeah, duh, you can't have student loans if you didn't go to school, so yeah, you probably had a couple hundred grand head start on him
I have an engineering degree from LSU.
Thanks, dad.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:38 am to Eurocat
That’s awesome for Estonia. It’s also smaller than Louisiana. A hell of a lot easier to ensure broad band when you have to provide it to south Louisiana as opposed to that plus 49 and a half other states similar in size
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