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re: Let’s get this clear once and for all: the internet is NOT a utility
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:39 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:39 am to ShortyRob
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Well, I mean. There it is. Liberal ideology in a nutshell.
It's child like thinking. Impossible to overcome.
This is hysterical. I disagree with you, so I must be a liberal and wrong, and then you accuse me of childlike thinking.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:39 am to NYNolaguy1
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What govt problem is being solved by NN?
Government can't fix government problems.
NN isn't a solution to anything. It is an emotional reaction to a problem caused by local and state governments
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:41 am to Errerrerrwere
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Like electricity, water, or gas.
And it isn’t essential for life. That is all.
The internet is information and information is essential IMO.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:43 am to NYNolaguy1
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Theres only slightly more competition among wireless carriers, but they are just as bad at allowing competition as the cable companies are. Theres no shortage of collusion between either group.
Wait. So now, you're going to want the govt to regulate an industry with 4 major carriers, 3 mid major carriers and like 100 other carriers?
Holy frick man. And that's TODAY. What the frick do you think it will look like when the bulk of the nation converts?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:44 am to NYNolaguy1
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This is hysterical. I disagree with you, so I must be a liberal and wrong, and then you accuse me of childlike thinking
You articulated child like thinking.
"I want to stop the scary thing before it happens" is a pretty childish response to someone who asks you, "have you considered what happens after the scary thing?"
I mean, if that isn't child like, what the frick is.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:46 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:Yeah? Well beat a gazillion-trillion-bazillian $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I would put my net worth and assets up against yours any day, bub.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:47 am to Errerrerrwere
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it is essential for 99.9% of business’ to run efficiently
FIFY
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:47 am to Errerrerrwere
As a person in the job market, I'll take the internet over electricity and gas.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:49 am to Greace
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but thats not exactly a smart choice now is it?
I think you are confusing smart choice with a choice of convenience. Is electricity convenient? Absolutely.
When price of electricity is high you probably try to turn the lights off, run the AC less, etc...
I promise you that I understand how important it is for you to be able to quickly download a photo from the internet as cheaply as possible. It's almost life and death.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:50 am to Errerrerrwere
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Like electricity, water, or gas. And it isn’t essential for life. That is all.
And you know how this is 100%, completely objectively verifiable?
Try to sell your house off the grid. Try to rent your house off the grid. Try to do a major renovation which requires a building permit off the grid.
A house is not legally habitable without water, gas (if applicable), electricity or sewer.
But, telephone service? Nah. Cable television? Nope. Internet? None of that shite is required for code.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:50 am to ShortyRob
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Wait. So now, you're going to want the govt to regulate an industry with 4 major carriers, 3 mid major carriers and like 100 other carriers?
I am guessing you think all of those companies have their own networks, lines, and poles, and that all of this was competitively sought after? That none of this was the result of the break ul of Ma Bell, or the creation of the internet?
I appreciate the simplicity of your understanding though.
Because if there was selective treatment, of say the 3 major carriers, that would make it anticompetitve, no?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:51 am to Errerrerrwere
quote:And you didn't deny being a dude with a truck and a tool kit, either, not that there's anything wrong with that.
Nah. You’re lame, bro.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:51 am to ShortyRob
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I want to stop the scary thing before it happens" is a pretty childish response to someone who asks you, "have you considered what happens after the scary thing?"
Scary enough that some use this idea to support our FISA court.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 12:06 pm
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:51 am to Errerrerrwere
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Like electricity, water, or gas.
And it isn’t essential for life. That is all.
I don't have an opinion on net neutrality.
I just want to point out that neither electricity nor gas is essential for life.
Mankind lived for millennia without it. It is a relatively very new luxury that makes life more convenient.
Just like the internet.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:51 am to NYNolaguy1
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Says the guy that supports FISA
Wait. I support FISA?
When?
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:52 am to Ace Midnight
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But, telephone service? Nah. Cable television? Nope. Internet? None of that shite is required for code.
Yep
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:52 am to Chancellor
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I just want to point out that neither electricity nor gas is essential for life.
Fair enough, but legally it is required for residences in the United States (assuming gas is applicable), as is water and sewer.
This post was edited on 12/15/17 at 11:53 am
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:53 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:Nope
I am guessing you think all of those companies have their own networks, lines, and poles, and that all of this was competitively sought after?
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Because if there was selective treatment, of say the 3 major carriers, that would make it anticompetitve, no?
Dude. If you're going to sit here and pretend that T-Mobile, Verizon, ATT, and Sprint aren't competing........then you might as well go all in and say you want to go full USSR.
Posted on 12/15/17 at 11:56 am to Ace Midnight
quote:That's true, but....various integrated components at the head ends and intermediate points that regulate and control the operation of water, gas, electrical and sewer services are on the grid and a necessary component.
And you know how this is 100%, completely objectively verifiable?
Try to sell your house off the grid. Try to rent your house off the grid. Try to do a major renovation which requires a building permit off the grid.
A house is not legally habitable without water, gas (if applicable), electricity or sewer.
But, telephone service? Nah. Cable television? Nope. Internet? None of that shite is required for code.
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