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So the internet has mostly worked great all these years...

Posted on 12/15/17 at 5:34 am
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 5:34 am
We need to make fundamental changes to it why?
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 5:35 am to
Kind of like how Obamacare fixed health care
Posted by starsandstripes
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 5:36 am to
Because Google says so.
Posted by starsandstripes
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 5:39 am to
Long but good write up from a chan on NN. link to image that you can magnify

Image
Posted by starsandstripes
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 5:56 am to
I think I mentioned this in the giant thread, but as alluded to in that long post from chan - Hillary Clinton was supposed to win and she was going to end the United States.

It's been brewing for a long time. Obama made the final moves. Hillary was to declare checkmate.

Any pro-NN person will not be able to defend NN after reading the item above and reading the CIWA.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:03 am to
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Any pro-NN person will not be able to defend NN after reading the item above and reading the CIWA.



Yeah that pile of babel is convincing...
Posted by jorconalx
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:22 am to
You didn’t read it. Oh, and what exactly is “babel”??
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:27 am to
quote:

So the internet has mostly worked great all these years...
We need to make fundamental changes to it why?


Weak sauce.

You could have posted this in Feb 2015 also
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:33 am to
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You could have posted this in Feb 2015 also



Only shows you have fundamental misunderstanding of the issues. Did you notice any significant changes in the internet since 2015? You will now.
Posted by TheFranchise
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:33 am to
It seemed to work really well from inception to 2015.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:35 am to
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Only shows you have fundamental misunderstanding of the issues. Did you notice any significant changes in the internet since 2015? You will now.

I'm pointing out that one could have written, "why make any substantial changes to policy"......in Feb 2015.

And, I understand the issue just fine.

Yes. I get it. A lot of you are noisy as frick.

That's fine. You'll get over it.
Posted by BruceJender
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:41 am to
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It worked fine before 2015


This is 90% of this board’s response to net neutrality. The problem is that the internet operated under the principle of net neutrality before 2015. If the fact that Comcast, AT&T, Cox, etc. spent millions of dollars lobbying for this doesn’t worry you, I can’t help you. Do you really think these corporations have us in our best interest?

quote:

It’s going to increase competition


Do you think they would lobby to increase competition? If Google finds the red tape too much to enter the market, who is going to want to go through that. It does nothing to increase competition and will allow companies to treat data differently and fundamentally change the way we use the internet.
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:41 am to
quote:

I'm pointing out that one could have written, "why make any substantial changes to policy"......in Feb 2015.

And, I understand the issue just fine.

Yes. I get it. A lot of you are noisy as frick.

That's fine. You'll get over it.



I see. So you can't answer the question...
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:44 am to
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Do you really think these corporations have us in our best interest?
Am I supposed to assume the government does?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:46 am to
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will allow companies to treat data differently


Like when Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. censor information right now with NN in place?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:47 am to
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I see. So you can't answer the question...

LOL. Your question was irrelevant to my post.

It would have been like responding to my opinion on cars by asking, "do you like Pickles?!
Posted by AUsteriskPride
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:48 am to
quote:

. If the fact that Comcast, AT&T, Cox, etc. spent millions of dollars lobbying for this doesn’t worry you, I can’t help you


Lobbied for more freedom with how they operate their businesses? OMG!! That's ominous as frick.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:53 am to
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If the fact that Comcast, AT&T, Cox, etc. spent millions of dollars lobbying for this doesn’t worry you,
Flawed argument.

Millions were spend on both sides. By corporations on both sides. If your argument is that the fact money was spent on it means it's bad, then literally both are bad.

quote:

Do you really think these corporations have us in our best interest?
This question says more about you than me.

It tells me that your understanding of capitalism came from Marx. No. I don't think ANY company is interested in MY "best interests". That's not how shite works..........ever.

Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:56 am to
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Lobbied for more freedom with how they operate their businesses? OMG!! That's ominous as frick.



You might change your tune if this site gets throttled or blocked...
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/15/17 at 6:59 am to
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You might change your tune if this site gets throttled or blocked...



I won't.

Because I understand how things work economically.

Liberals point to unevenness in human results(short term) in economics and try to "fix' them with centralized control.

I point to the unevenness as the glorious reason why economics works.........LONG term.
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