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if you don't make the playoffs do you adjust your roster any?

Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:26 am
Posted by Flair Chops
to the west, my soul is bound
Member since Nov 2010
35573 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:26 am
Do you add anyone off waivers even though it won't really matter to you, but may frick one of the contenders, or is that too dickish
Posted by Remulan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2014
790 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:30 am to
It is a pretty bs move unless the losers bracket means something (draft position, penalty for finishing last, etc).
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21291 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:37 am to
Everyone in our league that isnt playing for anything cant make a move.

I do a high/low league. Top 8 in playoffs. Top 4 advance. Bottom 4 compete in a "playoffs" for draft positions.

So right now top 4 in championship round, and finally 2 in the non-playoff playoffs can make moves. The other 6 can't.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17206 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:56 am to
If you’re out of the playoffs you shouldn’t be adding anyone from waivers.

I set my team though...mostly just because.
Posted by Phate
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
11725 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:58 am to
If you have nothing to play for you shouldn't be able to add anyone off of waivers.
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:05 pm to
I think it's ok to make waiver adds if you're making a legitimate pickup to help your team win, because, hey, you should still try to win your matchup. But I don't think it's ok to make moves just to screw over someone who's in the playoffs.

E.g. if you're not in the playoffs and own Wentz, I think it's fine to put a claim in for a QB. But if the Wentz owner is in the playoffs, I don't think it's ok to put in claims for a bunch of QBs just to keep them from that guy.
Posted by Richard Castle
St. George, La.
Member since Nov 2012
1888 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:48 pm to
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If you’re out of the playoffs you shouldn’t be adding anyone from waivers.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51700 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:55 pm to
Last week a guy out of the playoffs picked up Morris over me. I was pissed
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34518 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 2:58 pm to
It’s completely uncalled for and unnecessary


There is nothing anyone can say to me to justify teams not in contention, making roster moves.. complete BS... it’s a good way to have good owners leave your league. Sort of bush league to make moves to block teams that are in the playoffs
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4196 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:09 pm to
100% agree
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27179 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:23 pm to
Disagree.

I think it’s absurd to reduce the waiver pool down to four, then two teams. It rewards shite planning. If you didn’t roster your handcuff or plan ahead for defensive matchups, why should you now have practically zero competition for waiver claims? And if you’re the lower seed in the finals, you just get unfettered access to the top waiver claim?

I agree that non playoff teams shouldn’t be allowed to stack their benches to spite playoff teams, but if they pick up someone to start? No issue whatsoever.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72062 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:38 pm to
I will refrain from adding anyone on waivers if im eliminated, but after that, it's free game. I want to hang Ls on contending teams
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40748 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 3:50 pm to
I just blew the rest of my faab outbreak on Zach Mettenberger, I dropped Cowboys D that has no business being owned going forward anyway
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34518 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

I think it’s absurd to reduce the waiver pool down to four, then two teams. It rewards shite planning. If you didn’t roster your handcuff or plan ahead for defensive matchups, why should you now have practically zero competition for waiver claims? And if you’re the lower seed in the finals, you just get unfettered access to the top waiver claim?




I understand that this is a subjective situation, but it’s absolutely pointless for someone to scoop up a player when they have nothing to play for, just to spite another team that’s in the playoffs

same thing with trades, teams that are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, or out of the playoffs have no business making transactions
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:53 pm to
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teams that are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs, or out of the playoffs have no business making transactions

I don't agree with this line of thinking - especially not with teams that are mathematically eliminated.

So if a guy gets eliminated from playoff contention in let's say, week 11, that guy should be prohibited from making moves to have his best lineup going forward? What if his last 2 games are against teams that are otherwise fighting for a playoff spot. He's supposed to not try and start his best team and give that team an easier win? Screw that, everyone should be playing to win all of their games during the regular season. If for nothing else than the fact that the outcome of their games impact the rest of the league. I don't want my contender picking up free wins because an eliminated guy isn't allowed to stream Defs or TEs or whatever so he's forced to lay an egg.

Also,
quote:

I think it’s absurd to reduce the waiver pool down to four, then two teams. It rewards shite planning. If you didn’t roster your handcuff or plan ahead for defensive matchups, why should you now have practically zero competition for waiver claims? And if you’re the lower seed in the finals, you just get unfettered access to the top waiver claim?

I pretty much agree with this line of thinking. Like I said in a post above, there's nothing wrong with making moves to have your best team. But it's not ok to make moves just to screw over a playoff team.
Posted by NastyNatiNole
Member since Sep 2014
754 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:53 pm to
This year we extended 25$ high week thru the whole season including losers bracket. So we technicaly have something to play for in losers bracket. SuRe enough high week payout came out of losers bracket this week.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34518 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

So if a guy gets eliminated from playoff contention in let's say, week 11, that guy should be prohibited from making moves to have his best lineup going forward? What if his last 2 games are against teams that are otherwise fighting for a playoff spot


I think you misunderstood what I meant

YES, you are SUPPOSED TO set your lineup, whether you’re in contention or not

but NO, you aren’t allowed to pick up players off of waivers or make trades


quote:

I don't want my contender picking up free wins because an eliminated guy isn't allowed to stream Defs or TEs or whatever so he's forced to lay an egg.


I can sort of understand this, so make the cutoff when the playoffs start for teams who are out


quote:

And if you’re the lower seed in the finals, you just get unfettered access to the top waiver claim?


That’s why I’d rather leagues that don’t do a waiver order, but instead each team gets $100 dollars to use for bidding on free agents
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:01 pm to
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but NO, you aren’t allowed to pick up players off of waivers or make trades

No I understand your point. But I'm saying that rule right there prohibits a team from setting their best lineup. What if it's a guy that typically streams QBs and DEFs and only keeps one of each on his roster at a time. He gets eliminated from the playoffs and now he's forced to start the same QB and DEF every week, regardless of matchup. Not allowing that guy to continue to make waiver claims prohibits him from starting his best team. And that would have a huge impact on his ability to win those games, and gives the people going up against him easier wins. I don't want that scenario to be what eliminates me from the playoffs or gets me a lower seed.

ETA: I see your edit addressed this point. I didn't notice it until after I posted.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 5:02 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34518 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:10 pm to
I think we both make logical points. I guess it’s just a matter of league opinion
Posted by auisssa
Member since Feb 2010
4196 posts
Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:27 pm to
People need to play to the end no matter if they're in contention or not. For the integrity of the league. If certain teams give up then that allows other teams an advantage that they should not have.

So all teams should stay a hundred percent engaged till the end.

That's also why we have a pretty substantial toilet bowl prize. Keeps everybody playing to the end.

We also double our kitty transaction fees after the trade deadline. So it weeds some of this stuff out.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 5:34 pm
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