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re: 'Jerusalem IS Israel's capital'.

Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:14 pm to
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That is EXACTLY the issue here.
How so? Because we recognize their capital city like we do for every other country in the world?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:16 pm to
There isn't much modern legitimacy in laying claim to all of Jerusalem for Israel because that was the center of the Jewish state in biblical times. In the modern world, Jerusalem is a shared city.

One of the problems is that Trump wants to be provocative in everything he does. But he does not have to deal directly with the people he intentionally provokes, nor does he have to bear the human consequences of the provocation.

People will be killed because of what Trump says on this issue. Trump apparently does not care about that.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 5:17 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:36 pm to
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There isn't much modern legitimacy in laying claim to all of Jerusalem for Israel
Sure there is. They have the biggest army in the region and no one can take it from them. That’s as legitimate as it gets.

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People will be killed because of what Trump says on this issue.
People are killed all the time over what presidents say and don’t say. That’s the price of conducting foreign policy.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:49 pm to
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Letting Israel dictate US foreign policy is far from MAGA.


Where does Israel consider their capitol city?

Wherever that is is where we should have our Embassy.

Next question.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:53 pm to
The list of leftist a-hole politicians who supported this right up until someone actually did it is rather astounding.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41871 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 5:57 pm to
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Appearing in the White House's Diplomatic Reception Room against an elaborate backdrop of Christmas decoration
I like how they have to add that bit.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125592 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:18 pm to
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Where does Israel consider their capitol city?

Wherever that is is where we should have our Embassy.

Next question.


You do realize not every embassy is in every capital city ?
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:30 pm to
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Letting Israel dictate US foreign policy is far from MAGA.



I'm no fan of Israel at all. In fact, they're a pretty terrible ally.

But the President is just carrying out a law passed in 95 that that had well over 90 votes in the Senate and 375 in the house and was recently reaffirmed unanimously this past june. He's just honoring their wishes.

Besides, the status quo of Tel Aviv for two decades has simply not worked and frankly I think this will do a bit of good for the peace process and could shake it up.

Oh and a few european and asian countries have already expressed interest in moving their embassy to Jerusalem today because Trump; that's American leadership.
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:33 pm to
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Jew Jared obviously made daddy in law do it



I think I saw reports that Kushner was opposed to it as he felt it could undermine the two state solution.

But it's just a report with muh sauces.
Posted by Rocco Lampone
Raleigh, NC
Member since Nov 2010
3051 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:38 pm to
I find this extremely weird for a nazi to side with the Jews.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125592 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

I'm no fan of Israel at all. In fact, they're a pretty terrible ally.

But the President is just carrying out a law passed in 95 that that had well over 90 votes in the Senate and 375 in the house and was recently reaffirmed unanimously this past june. He's just honoring their wishes.

Besides, the status quo of Tel Aviv for two decades has simply not worked and frankly I think this will do a bit of good for the peace process and could shake it up.


Bc they have dictated our policy for ever

quote:

Oh and a few european and asian countries have already expressed interest in moving their embassy to Jerusalem today because Trump; that's American leadership.

and some of our biggest allies and other world powers are against it
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
64757 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:49 pm to
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Bc they have dictated our policy for ever



Well of course they have but I'm not going to ignore that this being a new wrinkle in Foreign policy could do quite a bit of good for the peace process.

quote:

and some of our biggest allies and other world powers are against it



Congrats to them wanting the status quo that has done nothing positive at all preserved.

They'll come around eventually.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125592 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 6:56 pm to
I just don’t see the point in wasting resources and time turning the consulate there into the embassy just to make Bibi happy
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:12 pm to
The Bible says nothing about America puttting an embassy in Jerusalem
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:15 pm to
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People will be killed because of what Trump says on this issue. Trump apparently does not care about that.


Classic leftist response when republicans do anything: “PEOPLE WILL DIE OH MY GOD”

People would be killed if he did it, people would be killed if he didn’t. Get the frick out of here with your fake high minded ideals.
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4590 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:17 pm to
No cogent response elicits 'melt'. Now that is funny.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:19 pm to
And fricking wonder boy Obama said he would do it and didn’t because everything about his campaign was a lie

Whose arse was he kissing when he said he would do it?
Posted by HC87
Coastal NC
Member since Dec 2014
4590 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:21 pm to
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One of the problems is that Trump wants to be provocative in everything he does. But he does not have to deal directly with the people he intentionally provokes, nor does he have to bear the human consequences of the provocation.


And that is the PROBLEM. Military units in the CENTCOM AOR as well as select units stateside are in an elevated alert posture....sadly, they'll face the human consequences, if necessary, certainly not DT. So much for leadership from the front, and leadership by example.
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