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Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:00 am to TigerOne
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Jimbo got a ship
Not this year he didn't. Boston College shattered that already unattainable goal when they held FSU to 3 points in a 35-3 win. What side of the ball does Jimbo specialize in. Hope it's defense, wait... 35 points to BC, I hope it is offense, wait...
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What did O have?
9-3 record, bowl game against NOTRE DAME on January 1st with a chance for a 10 win and top 10 ranked season.
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A sinking ship from Ole Miss
This was meaningless before Eaux coached his first game at LSU. It is even more useless now.
"The 1st year LSU coach guided the Tigers to the first top 10 finish in over 5 years, but don't let that fool you, he sucked just 40 years ago at another school".
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Jimbo got what he deserved.
I wouldn't be that hard on the guy. He had to do it.
His situation in Tallahassee had really gone sour, probably to the point of him having no choice but to take the A&M job.
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What I did find, however, was multiple players who stated firmly that they can no longer trust Jimbo Fisher, and that if he comes back, they intend to transfer. They spoke on the condition of anonymity.
“If he’s back, I’m out.”
Jimbo Fisher shows no class ripping FSU during Texas A&M presser
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:02 am to Tigerbait357
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Its a bit absurd to only look at this one year and not look at his overall body of work as a coach his entire career
Glad you're such a big Jimbo fan. I hope he can turn down LSU a third time some time way down the road so you can really take up for him.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:05 am to Tigerbait357
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From strictly a coaching perspective he is one of the best out there
At strictly coaching you could be right about him on offense. It's everything else that is also needed to compete in the SEC. With an entirely new staff, how would his recruiting be at LSU? How will it be at Arkansas if he goes there?
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:12 am to Tiger Ree
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9-3 record, bowl game against NOTRE DAME on January 1st with a chance for a 10 win and top 10 ranked season.
That doesn't count when Alleva hired O. His ft hc record at Ole Miss was 10-25 in 3 years, less than 30% winning percentage. Jimbo, on the other hand, has 83-23 record in 8 years at FSU, almost 80% winning percentage. You can't compare apple with orange, first choice with nobody-else wanted.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:13 am to Tiger Ree
O probably shouldn’t have gotten the job but he did do well last year rebounding Lsu football. He closed a damn good freshman class and after a bad start regrouped and did well. 3 out of 8 conf games at home and he goes 6-2. Not bad down year or not. I feel confident he will recruit well this year and next so Lsu won’t lack the talent needed to win. Another issue I think goes unnoticed some is the fact that we had the best DC in football and Raymond who is basically a legend. We likely lose both if O didn’t get the job. I think he can win and if he flops the next coach will have a lot of talent to win with.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:23 am to tigersbh
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That remains to be seen
It does, but what signs point to him still being a NC caliber coach? Serious question.
He won the ship with Jameis and Pruitt like I already pointed out. After Jameis left he devolved to a 3+ loss coach who wasn’t sniffing national titles even though he’s probably had the 2nd most talented team in the country behind Bama for the last 3 years and was still getting good QB play. Will he match his FSU recruiting at A&M? Probably not.
And no ones mentioning the fact that Jimbo’s 5-6 season conveniently came right after the bottom dropped out of his marriage and the divorce was finalized. He’s going through a ton of personal shite right now and divorces get worse as time goes on for guys, especially middle aged guys. He’s not some superhero that’s impervious to outside distractions fricking with his performance at work. People were making the same “just one year” excuse for Herman and his UT team looked pretty poorly coached this season from top to bottom, and his recruiting class is pretty weak considering his top 8 or so recruits are CB’s and WR’s.
Les won a NC in 2007. By 2012 he was clearly not ever going to win the big one again. Jimbo won a NC in 2013, it’s now 2018 and he’s coming off of a 5-6 season about to start a complete rebuild. I’m just not seeing it. It’s way more likely that he ends up being a career 7-to-10-win-season kind of guy who wins the offseason championship every year than a dynasty builder.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 12:43 am to TigerOne
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His ft hc record at Ole Miss was 10-25 in 3 years, less than 30% winning percentage
Coach Eaux was hired as the LSU head coach because of what he had accomplished the last few years at USC and LSU. Not what he did over a decade ago at Ole Miss. Ancient history was not needed when LSU was able to evaluate the turn-arounds at two P5 programs under Eaux's leadership.
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Jimbo, on the other hand, has 83-23 record in 8 years at FSU
Tell the FSU fans and players who were happy to see him geaux. I don't really care one way or the other about Jimbo, but I am glad he only got to tell LSU to shove it up their arse twice. A third time would have been VERY embarrassing for the catastrophe syndrome percentage of the fanbase.
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with nobody-else wanted.
LSU hired Eaux as full time coach the day after the 2016 season ended. You have no clue whether anyone else wanted or would have hired him. After what he accomplished at USC and LSU I think Arkansas would have been all over Eaux if he wasn't already the LSU head coach.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 2:22 am to NoGeaux
I like how people like you forget that all Coach O does is Recruit, motivates the team, does interviews, walks the sideline during games with his arms folded and says "Geaux Tigers" after everything. Guy doesn't really have to anything. After meddling for the Troy game, he let his coordinators do their thing and look how it turned out. Y'all need to relax a little and remember that.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 4:07 am to Tigerbait357
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Jimbo shite the bed this year and completely checked out but his track record shows he can put up solid teams with excellent QB play.
His track record is very similar to Miles. I’m not saying Jimbo isn’t a good coach or thatO is better because he isn’t but Jimbo isn’t someone he can’t beat and he isn’t worth what A&M paid him.
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Even without winston he was winning 10 games a year
A win in the bowl game and O wins 10 games this year. If that is your criteria then O is right in track but the rant is constantly telling me that 10 wins isn’t good enough.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 4:09 am to UpToPar
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think any rational person would take Leach over Orgeron every single day of the week
Lol no
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:01 am to schwartzy
I wasn’t 100% sold on the Coach O hiring but I’m willing to give him the chance and benefit of the doubt. I want a coach that loves LSU and bleeds purple and gold and that’s coach O.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:23 am to schwartzy
We did better, PERIOD
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:34 am to TigerJeff
I'm shocked Leach gets so much love. His resume is very blah
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:35 am to TigerOne
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Jimbo got a ship
So does Chizik. Generational college QBs have that effect.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:47 am to Tigerbait357
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Jimbo shite the bed this year and completely checked out but his track record shows he can put up solid teams with excellent QB play.
Outside of Winston, this excellent QB shite is overrated.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 6:59 am to t00f
King
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:20 am to schwartzy
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There is something to be said about being all in for what you want.
yea. money grows on trees. in the real world, going "all in" is different from the fantasy world. if going "all in" is offering a 10 contract I think LSU would have been irresponsible and negligent in doing so. it is no just a risky move, it's an EXTREMELY risky move. LSU would have been locked in no matter the circumstances and believe me the circumstances can change in 10 years. a perfect example is Les Miles allowing the program to decline by not firing his friends and allowing our offense to die on the vine.
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We had a chance for Herman, he wanted around 6 million for 5 years, but Alleva avoiding a bidding war with Texas
that's a huge oversimplification. tejas derailed our process by quickly firing Strong because they KNEW Herman wanted to be their coach. why continue negotiations with a guy who wants to be elsewhere. it is a monumental waste of time. you would know that if you ever hired people.
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What did Arkansas do differently when their main target was off the table? They gathered themselves and moved down the list and interviewed Leach today.
arky hasn't even hired anyone yet and you ASSUME they are doing better than LSU. AND you assume Leach is the man we should have pursued. I, for one, do not like Leach and do not think he would be a great hire for LSU. you do. fine. but to assume he is great doesn't make it so.
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I hope Orgeron does well,
personally, I don't believe you.
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Alleva needs to be out if it doesn't work out.
finally, we agree on something. O will get a couple of more years to prove he's the man. Alleva would retire anyways but i'm sure the big money boosters would want a new AD to select his successor.
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:33 am to Space Cowboy
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So you want Alleva to give Jimbo a guaranteed 10 year $75 million dollar contract or to hire a coach who was fired for abusing his former football players?
Who is suggesting giving Leach 75 million???
Posted on 12/5/17 at 7:39 am to schwartzy
Jimbo was not leaving FSU last year. He thought he would be playing for a national championship this year. How is that so hard to understand.
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