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Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:30 am to Leonides
He has the highest winning % of all SEC coaches, is a great recruiter, and TAMU felt like he was worth that. Pretty simple, reality.
Why was Ed Orgeron worth hiring as a head coach for the winningest SEC program this century??
Why was Ed Orgeron worth hiring as a head coach for the winningest SEC program this century??
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:35 am to Leonides
83-21 record at FSU with a NC and consistently with top 5 recruiting classes
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:36 am to Fishhead
It's called commitment. Hopefully, we are done shitting around.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 7:55 am to cardboardboxer
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He has only had one recruiting class out of the top 5 the last five years.
eATMe paid Nick Saban money. I could never see Nick Saban having a year like Jimbo just had. Year after year of top 5 recruiting classes and leaves FSU with a losing record. Cha-Ching!
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:29 am to Leonides
A&M had revenues of $194 million last year with $134 million in expenses. So the goal is to hire the best available coach. By any objective measure Jimbo is a Top 5 coach in CFB. So even assuming A&M overpaid, who cares? The risk for A&M's AD is not overpaying for a coach.
The risk for A&M's AD is having his fan base think he is not committed to doing everything he can to win. A&M has very expensive tickets to their games with huge donations required. They sell those tickets and get those donations now but if they want to keep demand strong they have to continue to show those folks writing the checks they are committed.
This isn't the first time A&M has gone out and written a big check to buy a coach, we have done it at least 3 other times:
Bear Bryant-A&M went out and hired Bryant after an SEC Title at Kentucky by writing him a huge check. Bryant delivered in a short tenure with an undefeated season and Conference Title, a Heisman Winner, and a #1 ranked team. A&M was still a small, all male school at the time though and he left to go back to his Alma Mater at Bama, Bryant was the last coach to leave A&M voluntarily.
Jackie Sherrill-In '82 A&M hired Sherrill with the first million dollar contract in CFB history with the highest salary at the time. Sherrill had just had consecutive #2 finishes at Pitt. He was actually A&M's backup plan after Bo Schembechler who came a breath away from leaving Michigan. Sherrill went on to completely rebuild A&M and win 3 straight SWC Titles and win 2 Cotton Bowls as well as beat rival Texas 5 straight times. He was forced out due to the NCAA but he left a program that continued to dominate the SWC for the next several years.
Dennis Franchione-in '02 A&M wrote another huge check to hire away Fran from Bama, something that most thought was impossible. Fran was considered the hottest coach in CFB after rebuilding 3 programs. He was a complete disaster at A&M to the point where a lot of folks pretend as though the great run from '85-98 didn't exist.
A&M isn't afraid to spend money to get the best coach available, it isn't a new phenomenon. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't but we aren't scared and we will do it again if needed.
The risk for A&M's AD is having his fan base think he is not committed to doing everything he can to win. A&M has very expensive tickets to their games with huge donations required. They sell those tickets and get those donations now but if they want to keep demand strong they have to continue to show those folks writing the checks they are committed.
This isn't the first time A&M has gone out and written a big check to buy a coach, we have done it at least 3 other times:
Bear Bryant-A&M went out and hired Bryant after an SEC Title at Kentucky by writing him a huge check. Bryant delivered in a short tenure with an undefeated season and Conference Title, a Heisman Winner, and a #1 ranked team. A&M was still a small, all male school at the time though and he left to go back to his Alma Mater at Bama, Bryant was the last coach to leave A&M voluntarily.
Jackie Sherrill-In '82 A&M hired Sherrill with the first million dollar contract in CFB history with the highest salary at the time. Sherrill had just had consecutive #2 finishes at Pitt. He was actually A&M's backup plan after Bo Schembechler who came a breath away from leaving Michigan. Sherrill went on to completely rebuild A&M and win 3 straight SWC Titles and win 2 Cotton Bowls as well as beat rival Texas 5 straight times. He was forced out due to the NCAA but he left a program that continued to dominate the SWC for the next several years.
Dennis Franchione-in '02 A&M wrote another huge check to hire away Fran from Bama, something that most thought was impossible. Fran was considered the hottest coach in CFB after rebuilding 3 programs. He was a complete disaster at A&M to the point where a lot of folks pretend as though the great run from '85-98 didn't exist.
A&M isn't afraid to spend money to get the best coach available, it isn't a new phenomenon. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't but we aren't scared and we will do it again if needed.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:32 am to aggressor
Holy shite, LSU fans are salty over this.
Also, I love when people ask this question. Would I pay him that? No, but I'm not footing the bill so I don't really care.
Also, I love when people ask this question. Would I pay him that? No, but I'm not footing the bill so I don't really care.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:36 am to Leonides
Because that’s what someone was willing to pay him
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:43 am to aggressor
It’s worth it even if it does not pan out. A&M has wanted to make a jump for a long time and they are all in agreement that this is the path to do that.
From an objective perspective, that time period was not that great. Just one top 5 finish and only 4-5 top 10 finishes. That time period is considered the Aggie bar for success and to return to that would be considered an Aggie return to glory. If A&M only achieves that with Jimbo, most of the SEC would be unimpressed.
From an objective perspective, that time period was not that great. Just one top 5 finish and only 4-5 top 10 finishes. That time period is considered the Aggie bar for success and to return to that would be considered an Aggie return to glory. If A&M only achieves that with Jimbo, most of the SEC would be unimpressed.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:58 am to Cypdog
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t’s worth it even if it does not pan out. A&M has wanted to make a jump for a long time and they are all in agreement that this is the path to do that.
From an objective perspective, that time period was not that great. Just one top 5 finish and only 4-5 top 10 finishes. That time period is considered the Aggie bar for success and to return to that would be considered an Aggie return to glory. If A&M only achieves that with Jimbo, most of the SEC would be unimpressed.
It's true A&M didn't end up having high rankings at the end in many of those years because they lost a lot of bowl games. What we did do though was:
Win 7 Conference Titles, plus another undefeated season where we were ineligible so we didn't officially win.
Set the SWC all time record for consecutive wins.
Had a streak of 56-4-1 at home.
Beat our primary rival Texas 10 of 11 years.
Beat LSU 6 consecutive years to the point where they cancelled the series.
Humiliated 3 Heisman trophy winners in their last game (Bo Jackson, Tim Brown, and Ty Detmer).
Was it perfect? No, we didn't finish seasons well enough. It didn't suck though.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 8:59 am to Leonides
to the aggies he is. they are desparate to be "included" as a top program and have been very frustrated since their first year with JFF. these top salaries are not paid by the universities; it is the boosters that pony up. the aggies have a lot of oil co. leaders with big bucks. all programs have these big money guys but these aggies are so damn "needy" they probably had no problem in raising the extra money for sumlin's buy out (lsu got Miles easily). as far as the annual salary they were already funding 5 mil so it's just 2 and a half mil more per year. the fans will pay most of that. with 8 home games a year that 800,000 tickets. do the math. I guarantee that those win starved aggies and maggies will pony up and xtra $5 a ticket to have a chance to win. and if the aggies are smart they'll raise them even more (or at least the suite prices, etc) and reserve some funds for fisher and sexton's future demands. 
Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:01 am to LSU GrandDad
He's not, but I do respect their commitment. At least fricking try. Seriously, that's really what most people are frustrated about here.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:08 am to lukestar
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83-21 record at FSU with a NC and consistently with top 5 recruiting classes
Couldnt the same be said for Les Miles. Is he worth 7.5 million? Actually Les had a better record at LSU i believe then Jimbo. Just because you got a NC doesnt make you a great coach.
I believe A&M will be lucky to win a SEC championship with jimbo much less a NC. The SEC West aint no joke.
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Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:15 am to Leonides
He is definitely not worth $75 million guaranteed. I would have rioted if FSU paid him anywhere near that
Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:22 am to TheOcean
Why? It’s not your money. Are you a season ticket holder?
Posted on 12/2/17 at 9:38 am to VermilionTiger
Your logic is lacking
Posted on 12/2/17 at 11:07 am to LSU GrandDad
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I guarantee that those win starved aggies and maggies will pony up and xtra $5 a ticket to have a chance to win.
Exactly. Sumlin had one 11 win season and the excitement levels were so high we raised enough money after that season to build a half billion dollar stadium.
If Jimbo has two ten win seasons in the first four he will have paid off his entire contract.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 12:07 pm to Leonides
He’s not.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:33 pm to Leonides
He had a great QB and a good run with him. Otherwise he is nothing special.
Posted on 12/2/17 at 2:39 pm to Leonides
quote:that's not how it works.
What has Jimbo accomplished to warrant $75 million over 10 years?
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