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Would Josh Rosen's personality keep you from picking him #1?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:47 pm
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:47 pm
Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline compares some of the talk of alleged personality issues with UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen to what was said of former Michigan State QB Connor Cook.
Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
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Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
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Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:50 pm to hsfolk
I'll be shocked if Rosen pans out, even after watching him do A&M dirty.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:50 pm to hsfolk
Aaron Rodgers has the same kind of things said about him and it worked out for him.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:50 pm to hsfolk
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Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor.
I gurantee you those GM's don't work for teams that have a top 10 pick. Im not saying that his personality isn't a concern, but there's plenty of good players that aren't in love with the game.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:51 pm to hsfolk
Can we elaborate on what personality issues we are talking about? All I know is he came out and said the NCAA was bullshite, which would give me a favorable opinion on him.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:51 pm to hsfolk
This isn't anything new, he's always been very arrogant. Stanford didn't offer him a scholarship because they didn't like his attitude.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 8:56 pm to hsfolk
Look at them measuring intangibles.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:06 pm to hsfolk
He is an intelligent guy from an extremely upper class background. I can see how he can rub people the wrong way, and I bet he doesn't relate to many players or coaches at all because they come from different backgrounds than him.
But so what? The most promising young star in the NBA (Giannis) has said on record he hates team building exercises, goes for days without talking to some of his teammates, never delivers speeches or motivational exercises, and mostly works his arse off alone. And the fans, sponsors, and media can't get enough of him.
If you're good enough, you don't have to be a Rah Rah type. The idea of teammates being best friends and teammates being brothers is played out bullshite, especially at the professional level.
If Rosen is good enough on talent (and I haven't watched him enough to have an idea, but his stats look as good as basically anyone's), then you pick him top 10.
But so what? The most promising young star in the NBA (Giannis) has said on record he hates team building exercises, goes for days without talking to some of his teammates, never delivers speeches or motivational exercises, and mostly works his arse off alone. And the fans, sponsors, and media can't get enough of him.
If you're good enough, you don't have to be a Rah Rah type. The idea of teammates being best friends and teammates being brothers is played out bullshite, especially at the professional level.
If Rosen is good enough on talent (and I haven't watched him enough to have an idea, but his stats look as good as basically anyone's), then you pick him top 10.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:16 pm to hsfolk
I could never draft an atheist to be the leader of my team.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:18 pm to hsfolk
How many teammates went to his birthday party?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:21 pm to hsfolk
No, he doesn’t get in trouble with the law, to my knowledge he isn’t a problem child and has a strong work ethic, and is tough in the pocket with a rocket arm. Next question.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:22 pm to hsfolk
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Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL
This is just stupid. Cam Newton did far worse things in college and he was the next face of the NFL. After getting CAR to the super bowl pundits had already reserved a spot for him into the NFL.
Rosen gets it done on the field. Finding a franchise QB is basically a crapshoot.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:33 pm to hsfolk
Do such things as "leadership" and "personality" really matter in today's locker room?
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:34 pm to hsfolk
Egotistical is fine.
All great athletes are egotistical.
What would alarm me is the rumor that his teammates don't like him at all in spite of his talent.
All great athletes are egotistical.
What would alarm me is the rumor that his teammates don't like him at all in spite of his talent.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:38 pm to hsfolk
Rosen is a head case. He doesn't even have great numbers in the Pac12 which is trash. Probably the worst conference in the nation the past couple years. Rosen is going to be the biggest bust of all time.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:44 pm to hsfolk
The Rosen hate just gives him more power. He will kill it in the NFL
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:45 pm to hsfolk
No NFL team will care if he can make the throws. Total non issue
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:00 am to hsfolk
In Cook's case I think people were less worried about his personality flaws and more concerned with the fact that he's a horrific quarterback.
Posted on 11/23/17 at 12:19 am to hsfolk
Draft "reports" like this are so stupid. This same article will be written 250 more times before the draft gets here and every time, the internet and MSB will rush in to give their expert hot take.
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