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Jones “The Second Amendment is not an absolute right, not a God-given right"
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:03 am
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:03 am
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“We’ve got limitations on all constitutional amendments in one form or another.” This position is contrary to the clear language of the amendment, which states that the right to keep and bear arms “shall not be infringed.”
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:06 am to Jjdoc
There's no such thing as a God given right, Roy
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:07 am to Jjdoc
Uhmmm, of course it's not an absolute right. In legal terms I think that's callled "being dumb"
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:13 am to Jjdoc
Why do leftists act as if there a no current "limitations" on the 2A?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:13 am to Jjdoc
People just need to read Heller before saying anything about the second amendment.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:13 am to JuiceTerry
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There's no such thing as a God given right, Roy
It's the same as natural rights
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:14 am to Jjdoc
I don't disagree with anything in his statement although I'm willing to bet his opinion on that limitation differs greatly from the intent of the drafters.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:14 am to Jjdoc
frick Dougie the Commie and his supporters.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:15 am to upgrayedd
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It's the same as natural rights
Not every right in the Constitution is a natural right.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:18 am to Antonio Moss
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Not every right in the Constitution is a natural right.
It's for the preservation of natural rights
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:18 am to Jjdoc
This guy is too stupid to just keep his mouth shut and ride the war of negativity against Roy.
He'll get some GOP votes because of the smear campaign against Moore. He keeps spouting off shite like this and he'll send them right back to Moore.
He'll get some GOP votes because of the smear campaign against Moore. He keeps spouting off shite like this and he'll send them right back to Moore.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:19 am to JuiceTerry
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There's no such thing as a God given right, Roy
i mean all rights are "god given"
they certainly are not given by government
the whole point of rights is to limit government action
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:19 am to Jjdoc
Anti gun and pro partial birth abortion, yet you idiot Dems think he will win in Alabama? Insanity
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:21 am to Jjdoc
Go back and read the Heller decision. Even Justice Scalia said that it's not an "absolute right."
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:21 am to upgrayedd
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It's for the preservation of natural rights
Meh, government exists for the preservation of natural rights. That doesn't mean every aspect is a natural right.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:22 am to TigersFan64
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Go back and read the Heller decision. Even Justice Scalia said that it's not an "absolute right."
No right is absolute
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:25 am to Antonio Moss
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differs greatly from the intent of the drafters.
They wouldn't have included the key "A well-regulated militia" clause if their intent differed from Scalia's interpretation in the Heller decision. At the time of the Constitutional Convention, one has to keep in mind the context in which Shay's Rebellion was very fresh in the FF minds.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:30 am to TigersFan64
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They wouldn't have included the key "A well-regulated militia" clause
All you have to do is read through the various drafts of the Amendment and the writings of the various authors. Clearly, the "well-regulated militia" clause supports the necessity of the right, it does not limit it.
Not to mention, in 1787, the "militia" was considered any male capable of operating a weapon. The concept of professionalized militias had not come into existence.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:30 am to Antonio Moss
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Meh, government exists for the preservation of natural rights.
Ideally, yes. Government is akin to a living organism and just like any living organism it seeks to grow. That growth will often mean the erosion of freedoms for citizens, eventually eating into natural rights.
See: limits placed on full-auto weapons that make them nearly impossible to purchase for the average citizen
See also: the government's attempts to shut down plans for reliably built 3D firearms.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 8:31 am to Antonio Moss
It says the right of the people shall not be infringed, not the right of the militia
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