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re: Democrats say prayers to God aren't enough

Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49014 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:31 pm to
Who said prayers are enough? Democrats are angry people are offering prayers at all.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101974 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:33 pm to
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Who said prayers are enough? Democrats are angry people are offering prayers at all.




Belittling those with faith is a winning narrative. They should keep at it HARD.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73649 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:40 pm to
Dear Federal Government and The Great Father Climate Change,

please make conservatives and libertarians agree with us so that we can take more of their money and waste it.

P.S. - It would be very helpful if you could make them give up their guns.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41870 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 12:58 pm to
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They are right. If prayers were enough then the world’s problems would be long gone. And yes, I am pro 2nd amendment.
God is not a genie beholden to anyone who lays claim to the magic lamp.

It's not about "being enough". People aren't praying because they think that's how all of the world's problems are solved, as if God works entirely outside of the means of humanity for all things. They are praying to show solidarity with the victims and their families. They are praying to help themselves cope with the tragedy. They are praying that God gives comfort to those affected by this terrible thing.They are praying for a change of heart and conversion for the evil people in the world that would want to do these sorts of awful things.

The reason this is an issue is because prayer, itself, is under attack by those who want to minimize its importance to so many people. In their zeal to make themselves feel important, many are attacking those who say they are praying for not doing enough to show they really care, as if prayer isn't important at all and should be discarded entirely. Often times there isn't anything people can do except pray.

The Babylon Bee gets it again:
‘Praying Doesn’t Help Anything,’ Says Man Whose Idea Of Helping Is Trolling On Internet
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

Praying is vastly more effective than any gun-control legislation.


I'm sorry someone hurt you.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:05 pm to
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Why did Dems filibuster the Cruz proposal that would have had this guy in prison when he tried to buy the gun?



Ted Cruz had a bill that made buying a gun as a domestic violence offender lead to a prison sentence?

Please link that one, sounds fun...
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:08 pm to
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Ted Cruz had a bill that made buying a gun as a domestic violence offender lead to a prison sentence?

this is the law

quote:

The bill would increase the resources available to prosecutors for violators of gun laws, and creates a “Cruz Task Force” to prosecute those who fail criminal background checks. The task force is funded through an Asset Forfeiture Fund.

The bill criminalizes straw purchasing and trafficking, measures Grassley supported in committee hearings on the gun control bill that will go before the Senate later this month. It also seeks to increase safety at schools, keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill, and increases accountability for prosecutions at the executive level by requiring the Department of Justice to submit reports to Congress.

The senators were particularly critical of the Obama administration’s record of prosecuting background check violations, saying it only took up a small portion of such cases.


it was aimed specifically to aid in making sure all the databases were linked with funding to ensure they were useful
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49014 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:09 pm to
No dummy.

He had a bill making it a felony for a convicted felon to lie on his application for a gun. It also required all agencies (like the Air Force) to list alll felonies with the NICS. Dems filibustered it.

Killer lied in his app. Air Force failure to report felony to NICS meant no red flags popped up. Had the Dems not filibustered the bill...his felony would have been registered and he would have been arrested and sitting in federal prison for trying to buy the gun.

Dems don't care about actually helping people. They had a chance...and filibustered....because the meanie republicans were being too harsh on felons.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Democrats are angry people are offering prayers at all.


Democrats are angry people are offering prayers in lieu of doing tangible things that might limit the need to offer more prayers in the future.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:16 pm to
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Democrats are angry people are offering prayers in lieu of doing tangible things that might limit the need to offer more prayers in the future.

again. they filibustered a bill that would "do something"

specifically, it would have stopped this murderer from illegally buying guns

Democrats apparently offer no prayers no solutions
Posted by cameronml
Member since Oct 2007
1909 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

in the Texas massacre. They need to go straight to hell. Ryan set them straight.


It obviously isn't enough with the increase in mass shootings in this country. How can you argue that? Or would you argue these mass shootings are acceptable to God despite the fact people pray for them to stop?
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:18 pm to
Republicans killed it, not Democrats

Why couldn't Ted Cruz get his own party to support his bill? Weird.

Posted by Ole Misdial
Red Light District
Member since Sep 2017
1123 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

I love how you are unabashedly part of the problem with this country. This sort of thinking on both sides is toxic, stupid, and only leads to fringe whacko candidates gaining ground.

What do democrats believe in then? I can't think of anything that doesn't have something to do with identity politics? People are tired of your bullshite.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

He had a bill making it a felony for a convicted felon to lie on his application for a gun.


Why not have the background check system be robust enough to not worry about whether a felon lied?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

Republicans killed it, not Democrats


quote:

So much for significant new gun-control legislation. The bipartisan Manchin-Toomey


When did Cruz and Grasserly change their names to Manchin and Toomey?
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14075 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:20 pm to
How about the government does it's job a reports crimes.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Why not have the background check system be robust enough to not worry about whether a felon lied?

the Cruz-Grasserly bill did that, too, by specifically forcing all agencies to share their data
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

they filibustered a bill that would "do something"



Again, Republicans filibustered that bill.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425837 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Again, Republicans filibustered that bill.

again, you posted a link about another bill
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22072 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

When did Cruz and Grasserly change their names to Manchin and Toomey?


The Manchin-Toomey bill was the one under consideration. The Cruz-Grassley amendment to that bill was an NRA-supported amendment that would have done little to strengthen background checks and in exchange made the interstate sale of guns easier.

Cruz proposed his amendment knowing it would fail, but of course you're not concerned about truth.
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