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re: MLB Offseason Thread: Hosmer to the Padres, Twins get a starter
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:16 am to papz
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:16 am to papz
Epstein is being very hardheaded on moving Schwarber. I'd rather keep him too. 30 homers in a down year is nothing to scoff at.
Almora probably has the lowest ceiling among cubs youngsters, albeit still high, in the management's eyes.
Almora probably has the lowest ceiling among cubs youngsters, albeit still high, in the management's eyes.
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:18 am to JetsetNuggs
I would move him over Russell Baez or Happ. It will be tough for the Cubs to get an impact rotation arm via trade if all four of those are off limits
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:20 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I agree. He's the most one-sided of all.
Now, Theo thinking so is a different story but I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Russell and Baez are probably close to untouchable.
Now, Theo thinking so is a different story but I wouldn't be surprised at all.
Russell and Baez are probably close to untouchable.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:21 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I agree especially if they don't land Cobb. KC is going to want to replace the non-existent power issue they have with both Hosmer/Moustakas being free agents. If they can't get either Schwarber or Happ, I just don't see it making sense.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:22 am to JetsetNuggs
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Almora probably has the lowest ceiling among cubs youngsters, albeit still high, in the management's eyes
I have nothing to base this on but I've always felt Happ would be the first to go.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:25 am to MetryMojo
It feels like they don't want to trade any of them but they know one of the outfielders will have to go for a pitcher.
It's almost like they're going to put Almora, Happ, and Schwarber's names in a hat a pick randomly
It's almost like they're going to put Almora, Happ, and Schwarber's names in a hat a pick randomly
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:26 am
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:26 am to MetryMojo
I like Happ but I guess if you have Russell and Baez set up the middle he loses value to Chicago playing in a corner OF. He’s probably more valuable to someone else than the Cubs
Is it pretty much a given they’re getting two starters? I assume they have Lester Quintana and Hendricks penciled in for next year with question marks beyond that. It does seem like Cobb to Chicago is a foregone conclusion
Happ will be better offensively than Baez in the long run but that’s JMO
Is it pretty much a given they’re getting two starters? I assume they have Lester Quintana and Hendricks penciled in for next year with question marks beyond that. It does seem like Cobb to Chicago is a foregone conclusion
Happ will be better offensively than Baez in the long run but that’s JMO
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:29 am
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:30 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
It's probably just one more starter. It just depends on who it is. Cobb, Duffy, or possibly a reunion with Arrieta depending on the price tag.
Chatwood was signed for the rotation.
Baez had a surprisingly good offensive year, BA wise. He hit .273. He needs to get a better OBP, but he is improving.
Chatwood was signed for the rotation.
Baez had a surprisingly good offensive year, BA wise. He hit .273. He needs to get a better OBP, but he is improving.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:32 am
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:30 am to JetsetNuggs
I don't think it's Schwarbs but clearly somebody has to go for them to get what they want. I'd fine giving up Happ and a package to get Duffy and Herrera.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:31 am to JetsetNuggs
Totally forgot about Chatwood
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:33 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I like Happ but I guess if you have Russell and Baez set up the middle he loses value to Chicago playing in a corner OF. He’s probably more valuable to someone else than the Cubs
That's my thought too. Plus he's cheap which makes him attractive to a team like the Royals
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:35 am to MetryMojo
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I'd fine giving up Happ and a package to get Duffy and Herrera
This is ideal. I'd rather Almora because he's power capped as of now but you need some BA, OBP, and defense.
Happ is definitely more appealing to the Royals.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:47 am to bwallcubfan
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Who do the Padres have to give up?
Nothing on the big club that would equal a Russell or Baez
Now their farm system is loaded
Posted on 12/12/17 at 11:48 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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like Happ but I guess if you have Russell and Baez set up the middle he loses value to Chicago playing in a corner OF. He’s probably more valuable to someone else than the Cubs
Or you could trade Russell, Baez to SS & Happ to 2B
Cubs are flexible. They like Baez at SS too
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:11 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Florial is probably 2 years away for the Yankees. Maybe they figure Frazier is expendable because of him, considering Frazier wouldn't play much with the big league club this season anyway.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:31 pm to BayouBengals03
Has Frazier's value dropped or something? I remember him getting the "Next Trout" label, etc., and now I'm seeing his name mentioned in trade talks everywhere
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:54 pm to Lester Earl
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Or you could trade Russell, Baez to SS & Happ to 2B
Cubs are flexible. They like Baez at SS too
I would trade Russell before Baez but I was responding to the other guy saying he thought Russell and Baez were untouchable
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:59 pm to GeauxAggie972
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Has Frazier's value dropped or something? I remember him getting the "Next Trout" label, etc., and now I'm seeing his name mentioned in trade talks everywhere
His value has probably dropped a bit for the Yankees, just because of the stacked roster they have, especially in the outfield. This had a lot to do with Hicks' breakout season. Now it's compounded with the addition of Stanton.
But in baseball as a whole, his value certainly hasn't dropped. Teams could try to leverage the Yankees, because they know New York is in a position where they are stockpiled at one position. But Cashman is the best GM in baseball, and I don't think he'll allow that to happen.
This post was edited on 12/12/17 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:28 pm to BayouBengals03
Chatter at winter meetings is that Yankees are pursuing Longoria.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:32 pm to BayouBengals03
Think I'd rather have frazier
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