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Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:03 pm to TechDawg2007
Blame should be equally split. Father is just a idiot that can't stay out of trouble and the state is being ridiculous
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:05 pm to MontyFranklyn
It's not the state, it's the transplant board. They don't want to do a surgery on a guy that could be recouperating inside prison after trying to knock off another liquor store.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:06 pm to JG77056
It makes sense, but it also makes sense to say that, with no other suitable donor, if that toddler dies, does the hospital open itself up to a lawsuit? They are denying him the transplant because they don't believe a willing donor will take care of himself after the procedure.
If the infection clears, and the kid is in a bad enough position that he needs it and won't make it 3 months, why couldn't they make the father sign some kind of hold harmless agreement? That way, if his health goes south because he won't take care of himself, no one can hold the hospital responsible.
Infection aside, this is the ultimate "sins of the father" situation. Why is the toddler paying for what his father did?
If the infection clears, and the kid is in a bad enough position that he needs it and won't make it 3 months, why couldn't they make the father sign some kind of hold harmless agreement? That way, if his health goes south because he won't take care of himself, no one can hold the hospital responsible.
Infection aside, this is the ultimate "sins of the father" situation. Why is the toddler paying for what his father did?
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:09 pm to Cowboyfan89
if the toddler dies they aren't opened up to any lawsuits for not performing a procedure. If the father dies after the surgery they are opened up to lawsuits. They want to be sure the father has the mental fortitude to get through it.
It's not an issue in most transplants because most don't involve a living donor, but to be a living donor the screening is very stringent.
It's not an issue in most transplants because most don't involve a living donor, but to be a living donor the screening is very stringent.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:16 pm to JG77056
Do kidneys not grow much? I'm surprised an adult kidney can fit in a small 2 year old's body.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:20 pm to JG77056
quote:Well I can understand that. If the guy truly loved his son he would have made sure he didn't do anything to put himself in a horrible position
It's not the state, it's the transplant board. They don't want to do a surgery on a guy that could be recouperating inside prison after trying to knock off another liquor store.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:23 pm to Pettifogger
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i have no idea what is going on here
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:24 pm to RandySavage
2 years old seems to be the minimum age for a child to have enough belly space to fit an adult kidney.
Keep in mind they'd be removing 2 of the child's kidneys and only adding 1 adult kidney.
Keep in mind they'd be removing 2 of the child's kidneys and only adding 1 adult kidney.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 1:26 pm to TechDawg2007
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Georgia toddler denied kidney transplant due to father's criminal record
No. He wasn't. That's a bullshite title and I hate purposefully incorrect click bait.
He was denied because his piece of shite father was being a piece of shite and went back to prison.
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scheduled to undergo surgery at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta on Oct. 3 to donate his left kidney to his sonhe was arrested on Sept. 28 for violating his parole again for possession of a firearm or knife during the commission of or attempt to commit certain felonies as well as for fleeing or attempting to elude a police officer, according to criminal records.
I'm sure most of the medical community agrees you don't want to do transplant surgery and then rehab on a person who will he recuperating in a federal prison of trying to escape from the hospital.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:06 pm to TechDawg2007
Dad is on meth. Hospital can’t say so because of HIPAA. That’s my guess.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:40 pm to HoustonChick86
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I saw on facebook, so take that for what its worth, that they don't let prisoners or people who have recently been in prison, donate due to a higher chance of contracting a disease in prison.
More likely to be the case.
Recent inmates/prisoners are more likely to have diseases such as TB, hep c, hep b, etc. After being jailed, the dad will likely have to go through a repeat battery of tests to ensure he's not a new active carrier of any of these.
Last thing you want to do is perform a $$$k operation and have the transplant fail and possible the kid die after finding out the dad has some disease that would have precluded him giving the transplant.
I doubt the recovery for the dad is the main consideration. We perform major operations on inmates all the time. They either stay in the hospital until fit to return to gen pop or they go to a medical unit to recover.
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Most states have a contract with certain hospitals to be the prison care taker. Many of them have secured prisons units. Escaping is not a major worry.
This post was edited on 11/3/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:44 pm to TechDawg2007
You titled and presented this in such a way as to make it look like the state or local authorities were holding this up when that is exactly the opposite of the case. From the article:
Nothing in the article indicates if this happened or not. The article could be seen to imply either, IMO.
Interesting timing, not sure what to read from that
Sounds like the family mostly sees Emory as the problem
The national guideline for living donors and Emory University Hospital appear to be the holdup.
But hope still exists. Hope and pray that young AJ get his kidney soon.
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In a letter dated Sept. 28 provided to ABC News by the family's attorney, Emory University Hospital asked Gwinnett County Jail's solicitor officer if Dickerson could be escorted to the hospital for blood work and a preoperative appointment on Sept. 29 in order to continue with the scheduled procedure.
Nothing in the article indicates if this happened or not. The article could be seen to imply either, IMO.
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According to criminal records, Dickerson was released from prison Oct. 2. But in a subsequent letter provided to ABC News by the family's attorney, Emory University Hospital announced it was canceling the Oct. 3 operation that could potentially save A.J.'s life.
Interesting timing, not sure what to read from that
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In an update posted on the GoFundMe page this week, Burgess said the family is "looking into other options" because Emory University Hospital "isn't budging at all."
Sounds like the family mostly sees Emory as the problem
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In a statement, Dr. Jonathan S. Lewin, CEO of Emory Healthcare, told ABC News: "The health challenges of 2-year-old A.J. Burgess have captured the hearts of all of us in Atlanta, and many people around the country. This courageous and magnetic young boy has kidney failure, and he and his family have bravely battled his health challenges every day of his life. The entire Emory community is motivated and engaged to help him secure a healthy future."
He added: "We greatly respect the father's desire to become a donor, and we want to work with him to try and make this happen. The national guidelines for approving a potential organ donor are clear and stringent. When evaluating any potential donor, Emory's medical team is required to consider the ability of the donor to manage the many complications and health challenges that come with a major surgical procedure."
"... We want a successful transplant for A.J. and we also want a positive outcome for his father or any other potential living donor," the statement added.
The national guideline for living donors and Emory University Hospital appear to be the holdup.
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In a press conference Thursday evening, the family revealed that “talks have reopened” with the hospital and they are expected to meet Monday.
But hope still exists. Hope and pray that young AJ get his kidney soon.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:51 pm to TechDawg2007
so tired of these fricking stories. poor kid doesn't deserve this. he deserves to live and hit shite father should give his life and a kidney for him. what a POS
Posted on 11/3/17 at 2:51 pm to TechDawg2007
So if someone in jail is a match for someone who needs a kidney and is willing to give that person a kidney, that person has to wait until they get out of jail before giving their kidney?
In fact, you know what? That should be a requirement if you get convicted of certain crimes. Once you are convicted, they see if that criminal's kidney is a match to anyone currently in need of a kidney. And if you die in jail, you automatically become an organ donor.
In fact, you know what? That should be a requirement if you get convicted of certain crimes. Once you are convicted, they see if that criminal's kidney is a match to anyone currently in need of a kidney. And if you die in jail, you automatically become an organ donor.
Posted on 11/3/17 at 3:50 pm to TH03
Lot of people in this thread going boo bureaucracy.
The father has armed himself illegally twice while on parole and second time was picked up with trying to commit a felony and fleeing police.
The guy is a violent flight risk, someone will end up killed because of that. Should it be someone else's son or daughter or mom or dad?
The world of transplants is already you play by the rules or your get passed over.
This is just a situation where the donor is a piece of shite.
It's sad but if his son dies because of that it's on him.
The father has armed himself illegally twice while on parole and second time was picked up with trying to commit a felony and fleeing police.
The guy is a violent flight risk, someone will end up killed because of that. Should it be someone else's son or daughter or mom or dad?
The world of transplants is already you play by the rules or your get passed over.
This is just a situation where the donor is a piece of shite.
It's sad but if his son dies because of that it's on him.
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