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re: Do great wins overcome terrible losses?
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:39 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:39 pm to Hot Carl
quote:1999 season.
I’m not sure this is true. Tech actually beat Bama twice in the late 90s/early aughts, but I don’t think Bama won the SEC either year.
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This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:42 pm to AshLSU
You're 100% correct and your theory has been proven many times. If LSU would somehow beat bama and then Uga and win the SEC the Troy loss wouldn't even enter into the discussion. Bad losses do not negate big wins at all in any way shape or form. These morons arguing with actual facts are doing it because that's what they do they look at everything involving Ogeron as negative and will not give an inch even in the face of hard facts. This is not a question of opinion it's already been proven in college football numerous times.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 10:44 pm
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:46 pm to Madking
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. If LSU would somehow beat bama and then Uga and win the SEC the Troy loss wouldn't even enter into the discussion
If the Troy loss was the only loss, you wouldn’t come off so stupid. People really don’t like that 2nd loss. That has been proven numerous times.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:47 pm to jbrau22
What have you done for me lately? Answer is a lot. Even after a tough start, no one expected lsu to best auburn. They have run through everyone. Yet they overcome an almost impossible deficit and beat a great team.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 10/20/17 at 10:54 pm to Hot Carl
My god you're stupid, the point is the Troy game means nothing as an individual loss. I should've known I'd have to spell it out for the retards like yourself. The criteria is simple Win your conference and have a better or equal record as the other teams in question then it's simply politics. If there were one team with a single loss and all of the other conf champions had 2 losses including us the Troy game wouldn't mean anything and LSU would be in the playoffs. I assumed you'd understand in the scenario i posted that Bama would have 2 losses I should've included that because even if we beat bama and Miss state Bama would get in before us just like Ohio State did over Penn St last year. Maybe you should watch more college football and not just listen to the morons on the rant and BR media. Try leaving this restarted bubble you might actually learn something. In 2014 Ohio State lost to a 7-6 Virginia Tech team while TCU with the same final record only lost to the #5 11-2 Baylor Bears, Ohio State made the playoffs TCU didn't the strength of the team that beat Ohio State didn't make a damn bit of difference just like anyone who follows the way teams are selected will tell you. The question wasnt about our current status or prospects, the question was do big wins overcome bad losses and the answer is yes they do.
This post was edited on 10/20/17 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:05 pm to jbrau22
quote:
Do great wins overcome terrible losses
With great wins come great forgiveness...
Posted on 10/20/17 at 11:15 pm to TriumphTiger
quote:Do you write the messages in fortune cookies?
With great wins come great forgiveness...
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:27 am to magildachunks
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This is an extremely elitist attitude. It reminds me of last year right after we fired Miles. A bunch of people were saying that we had a stable program.
Bro, please be quiet. Never should LSU lose by 30 to 1) a Miss St team they beat 80+% of the time, #) a Miss St team that's not even that good. I even broke that one down because just losing wasn't the problem, and would have actually been expected if they were good.
Same with Troy. This isn't a good Troy team. You can look at the final score and say we only lost by 3, but we were dominated at home. It was 24-7 til about 6 something minutes in the 4th. We basically scored garbage time points to not make it look as horrendous as it did. Again here, losing to a Troy team is one thing, but to get dominated at home is another, and if you can't see that, then you are part of the problem.
Do you really think that little of LSU? We are one of the very, very few programs that hasn't won less than 8 games in any season since this century. Losses happen, and you can lose to teams way beneath you, but by 30 to a team that may win 8 games, and get dominated by a group of 5 team that is not even good by Go5 standards?
Posted on 10/21/17 at 1:34 am to magildachunks
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Every year. This is said every year.
Are we sure about that?
If Brennan or Narcisse is worse than Etling, there is no hope for LSU having. Good passing game. You guys can rah rah about how tough Etling is all year, but he's just not good.
However I believe the QB will be able to do a lot more in this Canada offense than Etling has done.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 4:18 am to Brazos
If we win out, beating a #1 Alabama and a #1 Georgia in SEC Championship, I do not think we can be denied a slot for the playoffs. The 2 losses (although ugly), came early and if we were to win out, we would probably be playing the best football in the country at the end of the season.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 5:45 am to jbrau22
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But was it all on the coaching?
Yes. The answer to this question, always and everywhere, is yes.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 5:57 am to jbrau22
The bad losses this year were costly to LSU. No chance at the playoffs and probably no chance at a New Year's six bowl. Even if we run the table, which I don't think we come close to doing, the beat down by MSU and losing to Troy at home will be held against us. Even if we beat Bama on the road those losses hurt.
The team started the season flat and has turned it up the last two games. Most of us have no idea which LSU team shows up in Oxford but we're hoping it's the one from the second half of the Auburn game.
The team started the season flat and has turned it up the last two games. Most of us have no idea which LSU team shows up in Oxford but we're hoping it's the one from the second half of the Auburn game.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 6:25 am to jcaz
Nice, We go see them at least once a year in OBA. Have also seen them in Key West. Immense respect for our military.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 11:43 am to tigerjoey
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If we win out, beating a #1 Alabama and a #1 Georgia in SEC Championship, I do not think we can be denied a slot for the playoffs
I'd beg to differ. We had some inexcusable losses early. Had this been like a 6 team seed, I could see a chance. The only possibility of that happening with a 4 team playoff is if there are not enough power 5 one loss teams. There is no group of 5 team that you could even consider a top 10 team let alone top 4, so that's why it would come down to the Power 5. Let's say LSU does finish out and there are no more ridiculous upsets (there is a difference between upsets and teams that shouldn't be able to keep the game within 10 points). IMO this is how it would shape out
Washington, Washington St, or USC as a 1 loss Pac champ
Ohio State, Penn St, or Wisconsin as a 1 loss Big 10 champ
Miami or Clemson as a 1 loss ACC champ
TCU as undefeated or a 1 loss Big 12 champ, Oklahoma or Oklahoma St as a 1 loss Big 12 champ.
Bama as a 1 loss team, UGA as a 1 loss team.
Realistically I can see TCU or Oklahoma from the big 12, Clemson from ACC (if the starting QB is back), a one loss Wisconsin (big 10 champ or not), Ohio St or Penn St big 10 champ, and 1 loss Bama over LSU. Again like I said, 6 teams, the committee probably would go with us as the wildcard 6th seed, but no way with 4 team playoff.
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The 2 losses (although ugly), came early and if we were to win out, we would probably be playing the best football in the country at the end of the season.
Agree with this 100%. TAMU is better than everybody but Auburn that we have played so far. Bama would be #1 and UGA would be no worse than top 5 (possibly #1), when we play them in the conference title game. It's the fact that there were two horrible losses. One on its own might have been seen as a team finding itself. LSU should hope to finish like Penn St/USC. USC started 1-3 with two big losses including one destruction by Bama. They finished 9-3 regular season looking like one of the hottest teams around beating two teams that finished the regular season with their only losses coming from USC or Michigan. Penn St started 2-2 with an upset loss vs Pitt and a huge blowout loss vs Michigan. They finished the pre bowl game year 11-2 with wins vs #2 Ohio St, ranked Iowa, and 2 loss Wisconsin division champ, whose only regular season losses came from Ohio St and Michigan.
Posted on 10/21/17 at 12:17 pm to jbrau22
Beat bama = yes,
Otherwise = no.
Otherwise = no.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 8:15 am to jbrau22
have you ever heard the word ABOMINATION?? If we play both MSU and TROY surely the outcomes would be different. Move on man, those are over and done with.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 8:35 am to Datbayoubengal
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Depends. If LSU turns the season around by.beating Bama and then UGA in the SECCG, everything will be forgiven.
Forgiven by who?
LSU won't make the playoffs under that scenario because we lost to Try.
LSU isn't a blue blood program that can lose games like that and it won't matter.
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:37 am to jbrau22
They do if you lose early in the season and have a team that rhymes with Habalama
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:45 pm to Tiger Voodoo
OK, Voodoo - We got the Rebs, how do you see us for bama?
I think we have stuff in the Tiger Tank no one has seen yet, good stuff, we have a shot at getting them, when is the last time you heard an LSU coach say "We have to beat bama" O said that
I think we have stuff in the Tiger Tank no one has seen yet, good stuff, we have a shot at getting them, when is the last time you heard an LSU coach say "We have to beat bama" O said that
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 4:50 pm
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