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re: 18 States Sue to Challenge Loss of Subsidies
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:24 pm to WONTONGO
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:24 pm to WONTONGO
Expect to see insurers themselves filing suits as well.
This is going to be a cluster frick.
Tax payers are on the hook for more money, people in the individual market without subsidies look to have more expensive plans as insurers raise premiums to offset the cost sharing subsidies they will no longer be reimbursed for, and people qualifying for subsidies have to worry about the uncertainty and chaos seeing insurers flee their area. Democrats can now point to this action as Trump taking ownership of healthcare and deliberately attempting to sabotage the market.
Who Trump thinks he is helping is beyond me.
This is going to be a cluster frick.
Tax payers are on the hook for more money, people in the individual market without subsidies look to have more expensive plans as insurers raise premiums to offset the cost sharing subsidies they will no longer be reimbursed for, and people qualifying for subsidies have to worry about the uncertainty and chaos seeing insurers flee their area. Democrats can now point to this action as Trump taking ownership of healthcare and deliberately attempting to sabotage the market.
Who Trump thinks he is helping is beyond me.
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Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:25 pm to bonhoeffer45
Frankly, the sooner this shite show collapses the sooner a fix goes in.
Even the people they wrote this fricking mess knew it would never work, they just thought it would open the door to single payer.
Even the people they wrote this fricking mess knew it would never work, they just thought it would open the door to single payer.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:29 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Democrats can now point to this action as Trump taking ownership of healthcare and deliberately attempting to sabotage the market.
Only to loons (liberals)
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:32 pm to bonhoeffer45
I disagree.
Trump is putting this on Congress. He is saying "you have not authorized the funding needed to provide the subsidies to insurance companies--basically the profit guarantees to insurance companies--you want to give".
People will see ACA for what it is---a huge subsidy to insurance companies and providers.
Trump is putting this on Congress. He is saying "you have not authorized the funding needed to provide the subsidies to insurance companies--basically the profit guarantees to insurance companies--you want to give".
People will see ACA for what it is---a huge subsidy to insurance companies and providers.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:37 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Tax payers are on the hook for more money, people in the individual market without subsidies look to have more expensive plans as insurers raise premiums to offset the cost sharing subsidies they will no longer be reimbursed for, and people qualifying for subsidies have to worry about the uncertainty and chaos seeing insurers flee their area. Democrats can now point to this action as Trump taking ownership of healthcare and deliberately attempting to sabotage the market.
You truly are ignorant.
Posted on 10/13/17 at 10:42 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Democrats can now point to this action as Trump taking ownership of healthcare and deliberately attempting to sabotage the market.
The media and Dems will blame Trump about everything regardless of what he does. Heck, Pelosi and Schumer come out against Trumps plans evens before they read them.
This post was edited on 10/13/17 at 10:51 pm
Posted on 10/13/17 at 11:06 pm to bonhoeffer45
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Expect to see insurers themselves filing suits as well.
This is going to be a cluster frick.
I don't think you quite understand
They cant go back and sue for something that's not part of a law. Otherwise anyone could sue for not getting a govt payment of some kind each month.
Posted on 10/14/17 at 3:40 am to bonhoeffer45
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ax payers are on the hook for more money, people in the individual market without subsidies look to have more expensive plans as insurers raise premiums to offset the cost sharing subsidies they will no longer be reimbursed for, and people qualifying for subsidies have to worry about the uncertainty and chaos seeing insurers flee their area. Democrats can now point to this action as Trump taking ownership of healthcare and deliberately attempting to sabotage the market.
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You don't get it. Individual market was blowing up well before Trump took office. 23 million in 2014. 20 million in 2016. And 17 million in 2017(see link). People will continue to get priced out of this market regardless of Trump EO or subsidy loss. The damage was done when Obamacare was signed into law.
Posted on 10/14/17 at 3:51 am to bonhoeffer45
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Who Trump thinks he is helping is beyond me.
Trump is helping by blowing up the crap sandwich called Obamacare. Those in the individual market who don't qualify for a subsidy have been seeing large double digit increases since 2014. They just want the ACA to go away. The sooner the better.
Posted on 10/14/17 at 4:18 am to bonhoeffer45
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Tax payers are on the hook for more money, people in the individual market without subsidies look to have more expensive plans as insurers raise premiums to offset the cost sharing subsidies they will no longer be reimbursed for, and people qualifying for subsidies have to worry about the uncertainty and chaos seeing insurers flee their area. Democrats can now point to this action as Trump taking ownership of healthcare and deliberately attempting to sabotage the market.
Who Trump thinks he is helping is beyond me.
I know it's a crazy idea, but hear me out. If the insurance companies aren't required to cover people that can't afford their premiums, then that means that they can lower the premiums for the people that work to pay for their insurance. If the government isn't subsidizing the insurance of people that don't work to cover their own premiums, then we do not need to be taxed as much.
So, the people that Trump is helping are those people that actually work and earn money to pay for their own insurance. I know it's a ridiculous concept in liberalland, but if you don't earn enough money to afford something on your own, you are not entitled to it. If you want insurance, then get a job that allows you to provide for it. I know earning what you get is anathema to dumbass, whiny liberals, but it will do you good to get off the government teat & earn your own way in this life. It builds character. Liberals should try it.
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:00 am to bonhoeffer45
Taxpayer?
Posted on 10/14/17 at 9:51 am to bonhoeffer45
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sabotage the market
The ACA is what sabotaged the market.
Trump is trying to un-sabotage it.
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