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Why is baiting most game illegal except for deer?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:06 pm
I've talked to people from states out west and they are shocked when I tell them you can bait deer year-round in LA. Personally, I don't see baiting deer as sportsman-like, but I see why people do it. Does it have more to do with migratory animals and federal law?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:16 pm to upgrayedd
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I don't see baiting deer as sportsman-like
What do you think about hunting deer over pine straw?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:18 pm to upgrayedd
The landscape is just really different. Out west you can see animals from miles away. Down here they can be 10 feet away and you never know they are there. Apples to oranges IMO.
For that matter everything is different. Much less pressure per acre, deer are much more likely to have never seen a human, way more public land, agriculture is different, etc. You could go on and on. Much shorter seasons in other states and from what I gather no one struggles to kill a deer.
For that matter everything is different. Much less pressure per acre, deer are much more likely to have never seen a human, way more public land, agriculture is different, etc. You could go on and on. Much shorter seasons in other states and from what I gather no one struggles to kill a deer.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:19 pm to upgrayedd
It makes deer hunting easier. Which makes more people deer hunt. Which generates more money. And LA likes money.
Plus we have the deer herd to support it.
Plus we have the deer herd to support it.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:30 pm to upgrayedd
I hope they never make it legal in Alabama. They've already given crutchless hunters a bow hunting crutch with crossbows.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:55 pm to upgrayedd
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Why is baiting most game illegal except for deer?
Because deer aren't migratory. If one comes to your corn feeder it's likely already there in your general area. They don't travel much
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:11 pm to upgrayedd
All about the $$$$$!!! License and corn and other stuff!
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:30 pm to upgrayedd
Yes, the baiting of ducks and other migratory waterfowl is federally illegal, so there is nothing LA can do to allow it.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 2:52 pm to upgrayedd
A lot of fat and lazy frickers deer hunt
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:04 pm to upgrayedd
I would say it is safer too.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:13 pm to upgrayedd
I always thought it was funny that guys from the Midwest would turn their nose up at baiting but will sit on a cut corn field
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:43 pm to upgrayedd
This has nothing to do with other game but everything to do with baiting in La vs Midwest
Ever seen what a food source ( cut corn or beans, or foodplots look like up there late season? Every deer for miles funnels in there. That's because they don't have any other food source and hasn't since beginning of Oct
Down here we have acorns that don't sour till February. Thistle, briars, pecans, and other browse doesn't die off till mid December on an average year. Hell my garden will grow cucumbers into November if I let it.
Another thing. How many people kill wall hangers over feeders? Especially late season? Now if our food source was gone earlier and breeding season was earlier, how many giants would be killed when a corn feeder was the only source of food and they were trying to put weight back on.
In summary, apples and oranges
ETA: I'm on my soap box so I'm gonna keep going
Food plots in the south aren't very effective other than making millions for the company owners. Sure some areas see better results than others but prior to the rut in never gets cold enough for deer to have to walk out in an open field to survive. Sure there are anomalies in a herd of 800k but it's not easy to get that weary old buck to do it. He's learned he can do that at night.
And most of our region never really hunts a true "post rut" where the bucks have put their ding dong away and just wanna fatten back up. Most see rutting till end of season. Imagine how an old wore down buck would come running to a food source. I know if I got to frick random hoes ( does) for a few weeks I'd want to belly up to a buffet also. Even if I had as good of chance as being shot like I was selling bootleg CDs at Triple Mart or whatever.
Ever seen what a food source ( cut corn or beans, or foodplots look like up there late season? Every deer for miles funnels in there. That's because they don't have any other food source and hasn't since beginning of Oct
Down here we have acorns that don't sour till February. Thistle, briars, pecans, and other browse doesn't die off till mid December on an average year. Hell my garden will grow cucumbers into November if I let it.
Another thing. How many people kill wall hangers over feeders? Especially late season? Now if our food source was gone earlier and breeding season was earlier, how many giants would be killed when a corn feeder was the only source of food and they were trying to put weight back on.
In summary, apples and oranges
ETA: I'm on my soap box so I'm gonna keep going
Food plots in the south aren't very effective other than making millions for the company owners. Sure some areas see better results than others but prior to the rut in never gets cold enough for deer to have to walk out in an open field to survive. Sure there are anomalies in a herd of 800k but it's not easy to get that weary old buck to do it. He's learned he can do that at night.
And most of our region never really hunts a true "post rut" where the bucks have put their ding dong away and just wanna fatten back up. Most see rutting till end of season. Imagine how an old wore down buck would come running to a food source. I know if I got to frick random hoes ( does) for a few weeks I'd want to belly up to a buffet also. Even if I had as good of chance as being shot like I was selling bootleg CDs at Triple Mart or whatever.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 10/5/17 at 9:32 am to upgrayedd
If it was legal to put a giant lance on the front of your truck and run them down on/near the road after dark I could take out 50 deer a year. Put a rifle in my hands and stick me in the woods and there won't be a deer within 125 miles of me.
Screw bait lets find a way to make deer jousting legal in Alabama.
Screw bait lets find a way to make deer jousting legal in Alabama.
Posted on 10/5/17 at 3:02 pm to upgrayedd
Hunting corn piles/feeders, food plots and cut corn fields are no different to me than hunting the hot oak tree. You're hunting a food source. And as mentioned, big bucks are rarely killed on corn piles.
The reason why it's legal for deer and not ducks, is that ducks are migratory, going great distances in large part to search for food. If you bait, you concentrat birds from a wide radius and pile them into one location. In some cases thousands at a time. It's why rice fields and corn fields make amazing duck hunting opportunities.
Whitetail deer, on the other hand, are largely home bodies. You aren't pulling deer from miles away with a feeder. You're just making your local population more predictable.
The reason why it's legal for deer and not ducks, is that ducks are migratory, going great distances in large part to search for food. If you bait, you concentrat birds from a wide radius and pile them into one location. In some cases thousands at a time. It's why rice fields and corn fields make amazing duck hunting opportunities.
Whitetail deer, on the other hand, are largely home bodies. You aren't pulling deer from miles away with a feeder. You're just making your local population more predictable.
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