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re: Calif. releases latest test scores

Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:02 pm to
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Isn't it primarily how fast you can learn something? And then how much information you can retain?


Size of bucket = how much information you can retain.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28671 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:08 pm to
I realize what size of bucket is. But isn't an intelligence quotient how quickly one learns something from scratch? THEN how much they can retain/size of bucket?
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:13 pm to
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People are mentally superior because of their upbringing and resources.


If you have the slugs of any species breeding like rabbits and the top ten percent only producing a couple children per couple, how do you think that will affect the statistics?
Barrack Obama has two offspring, Travis Henry the ex Tennessee football player has fathered at least 11 children by 10 different women.
Another example:
A man who has fathered 30 children by 11 different women is asking the courts to give him a break from paying child-support. Desmond Hatchett, 33, of Knoxville, Tennessee, has reportedly set a Knox County record for the number of children he has managed to reproduce.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:23 pm to
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Shocker that high income would out score poors

or perhaps that explains how they became high income and poors in the first place

Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
12523 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 6:56 pm to
So your saying Blacks are horrible parents ?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:05 pm to
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I believe this to be true. No surprise that low income households score lower on tests than households that can afford a parent at home to supervise homework and studying or a tutor for subjects not mastered in class.



High IQ people usually have more money and low IQ people are generally terrible at making lots of money and are bad at financial security.

It should not be controversial that low IQ people are bad at earning or investing money
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:08 pm to
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No one is going to willfully stand shoulder to shoulder with a political group that has so many members that actually believe minorities are intellectually hard-coded to be inferior.



Ashkenazi Jews and Asians are minorities and have the highest IQs on the planet.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:10 pm to
Asians vote majority dem as well.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:11 pm to
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it's who can learn certain things or memorize certain things.



High IQ people do this very efficiently.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55558 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:12 pm to
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Asians vote majority dem as well.



It's pretty well divided by national origin, but that is probably more of a function of previous and current foreign policy than it is domestic policy.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:19 pm to
For sure... And tbh i wanted to move away from the political side of this discussion (even tho i brought it up). I am much more knowledgeable on science topics in general plus my post was a bit over provocative.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32145 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:25 pm to
Can't fix culture with money alone.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17116 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:29 pm to
If you look around the world, you will see that average IQ correlates perfectly with geographical location. Those in the tropics and sub-tropics are typically dumber than those in temperate and arctic regions. If you think about it from an evolutionary perspective, it makes sense. People in the colder harsher climates had to think and plan ahead to survive. They couldn't just sit around under a palm tree eating coconuts and lying around in the sun all day.

We know from DNA testing that whites and Asians were the same people back in history (about 40,000 years ago). Humans left Africa about 75,000 years ago and when they hit Eurasia they slowly split-off into "whites" and Asians. Some went East and became Asians, some went west into Europe (the first evidence of Home Sapiens in Europe is about 40,000 years old).

In any case, fast forward to today. Bushmen in Africa have the lowest IQ (65) followed by Australoids (70). Next would be West Africans (75), then African-Americans (85). After that would be native Americans, Southeast Asians and Pacific Islanders (85-90), people in the middle-east (90-95) and then whites (100) and East Asians (105). And, finally, the master race (Ashkenazi Jews) have the highest IQ of all coming it at 115 on average.

There is some debate about the right and left tails of the bell curve. For instance, we know that there are more retarded men than there are retarded women (retarded being defined as an IQ of 70 or below), but there's also more male geniuses than female geniuses (that is people at extremely high IQ levels). Likewise, it could be that Asians have a higher average IQ but don't have as many geniuses as whites. That last part is speculative and is based on the observation that whites have outperformed East Asians throughout history with inventions, scientific achievements, etc. Pretty much the entire scientific revolution from the Renaissance forward was done by white males (men like Galileo, Newton, Copernicus, Kepler leading the way) with a smattering of Jews thrown in. Asians were conspicuously absent from this revolution, even though they have caught up somewhat in the last 50 years.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43183 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:35 pm to
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How does this impact your behavior on a daily basis?

It means that for 50 years I have tried to understand the grievances of the 'black community.' I have implemented my own version of Affermative Action - I always gave preferences to blacks when hiring someone, or when rating someone's efforts.
I have loaned money and devoted time to any black who I thought was trying to help themselves. I have looked deeply into every grievance they have put forward and tried to rationalize their point of view.

I am just tired of it. I have always said that "if only some black leader would come forward to try and correct the cultural aspects of their dysfunction. . . " Well there are dozens of black leaders who have tried to do just that and been met with cat calls of "uncle tom."

I now have the same rule for any color skin = "if you act like an a-hole, I will treat you like an a-hole. No more 2nd chances for me." Just like I have always treated 'white trash' without a second thought or remorse.

At this point, I am very tired - been driving since 3 am this morning. And I doubt you have any interest in anything I have to say.

If you pose a rational question or identify a real issue, I will respond in like fashion.

ubtil later,



TigerDev = I thought I was responding to a different poster. I don't know you, so don't take anything personal. I'll have to try harder to properly ID my responses =
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 7:57 pm
Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:39 pm to
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Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:44 pm to
From an evolutionary perspective it makes no sense actually. Not nearly enough time to evolve in the biological sense.

You would also need to prove than intelligence is not a competitive advantage in those climates.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 7:46 pm
Posted by Balloon Huffer
Member since Sep 2010
3421 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 7:47 pm to
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That some racist BS. Just because they made a movie about white men can't jump, doesn't mean it's real!


Not sure if serious.


So, lets take one of many purely "physical" activities in the world...

how about 100 meter dash....

take a look at the top 10 fastest times in history and tell me if there is a pattern.... spoiler, all 10 are black.

Now, take the top 10 in purely mental activities, say chess players.... any pattern? Of course there is.

Facts are racist I know, UNLESS of course, they are pro-black facts.

But who is really claiming superiority, if one race was physically superior and mentally equal, wouldn't that race be a superior race?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
30949 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 8:43 pm to
Not a scientific journal but interesting

Evolution might happen much faster than previously thought


Link to a Time magazine article
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17116 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:03 pm to
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From an evolutionary perspective it makes no sense actually. Not nearly enough time to evolve in the biological sense.


Not true. We know that evolution can happen on shorter time scales. A good example is the gene for lactose tolerance. It is found in the vast majority of whites, but is almost 100% absent in Asians and blacks. We also know that this gene only arose in the past few thousand years.

Why did it arise? Because whites on the Pontic-Caspian Steppes were cattle herders and their diet consisted almost wholly of meat and milk (we know this through archaeological digs). Why did they choose to live off cattle and horses? Simple. They just so happened to have a lot of wild cattle and horses on the Eurasian steppes that they could hunt and they didn't have many other dietary choices.

Contrast this to whites who were already in Europe who were farmers and didn't eat dairy at all. They lived off grains, vegetables and wild game. Eventually the whites on the Eurasian steppes invaded Europe (from Russia) and conquered the natives. They brought their genes for lactose tolerance with them and now most Europeans have the gene.

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You would also need to prove than intelligence is not a competitive advantage in those climates.


I can't prove a negative. Intelligence is probably an advantage everywhere, but it is probably more necessary in harsh climates where only a few survived.
Posted by larry289
Holiday Island, AR
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:07 pm to
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