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GOP tax document reveals plan for massive tax cuts, preserves key deductions

Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:06 am
Posted by GFaceKillah
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:06 am
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Republicans on Wednesday will propose slashing tax rates for the wealthy, middle class and businesses, while also preserving popular tax deductions that encourage buying homes and giving to charity, according to a 9-page document obtained by The Washington Post.

But the document, titled “Unified Framework For Fixing Our Broken Tax Code,” leaves many key questions unanswered. In it, the White House and Republican congressional leaders do not identify the numerous tax breaks that they say will be removed in order to offset some of the trillions of dollars in revenue lost by cutting tax rates.




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The tax framework would:

* roughly double the standard deduction to $24,000 for married families and $12,000 for individuals

* collapse the seven individual income-tax brackets to three, with rates of 12, 25, and 35 percent

* raises possibility of a higher tax rate for the wealthy, though this remains an open debate

* allow more people to qualify for the child tax credit

* creates a non-refundable credit of $500 for non-child dependents

* preserves mortgage and charitable deductions, but promises to gut many others

* proposes simplifying tax benefits for retirement, work, and higher education

* eliminate the estate tax and alternative-minimum tax

* cut corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent

* allow high-income businesses that pay through individual income tax code to pay 25 percent rate

* allow companies to expense investments in equipment and other capital for at least five years

* create new limits on interest expenses

* eliminate a domestic production deduction Republicans feel will no longer be necessary

* preserve research-and-development tax benefits

* the document does not mention eliminating carried interest tax benefits used by hedge fund managers

* allows multinational companies to exempt all dividends from foreign subsidiaries

* incentivizes companies to bring overseas assets back to the United States, though it doesn’t say what tax rate it will impose on this shift.




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Honest question: Would you support these tax cuts knowing that they will increase the federal deficit?
Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:09 am to
Yes.

ETA: If the Democrats aren't worried about the deficit, why should we? At least the economy will grow with this plan.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32738 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:10 am to
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Honest question: Would you support these tax cuts knowing that they will increase the federal deficit?

Doesn't matter, nothing will pass. This Congress is useless.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24267 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:11 am to
Honestly, no. This current generation in power is absolutely screwing the future generations with the debt burden and this tacks an exponent to it.

I love a lower tax bill but not unless we use a cleaver on the spending including entitlements.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8247 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:12 am to
MAGA

Do we know where the 15, 25, 35 brackets will fall?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
24016 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:22 am to
Putting $1,000 in my pocket is not sufficient justification for putting debt borrowing and spending into hyper drive.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:24 am to
It worked amazingly in Kansas! They brought in so many jobs and businesses their economy boomed and they erased their debt! It'll be even better on a national scale!

Edit: To be clear, this is sarcasm. It was a complete and utter failure in Kansas. Their debt skyrocketed and it did not bring in nearly the estimated jobs.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2976 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:24 am to
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Honest question: Would you support these tax cuts knowing that they will increase the federal deficit?


Yes and get rid of Social Security and Medicaid
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21402 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:26 am to
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according to a 9-page document obtained by The Washington Post.


Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10248 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:31 am to
The 5% difference between c-corps and pass through attempts to fix the issue of double taxation of c's.

Am in favor of eliminating AMT.

Am in favor of expensing.

Single persons continue to get screwed.

Way too much influence from House Republicans on this for my tastes.

Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
5073 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:32 am to
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Honest question: Would you support these tax cuts knowing that they will increase the federal deficit?




You need to realize something....the Obama GDP growth rate of 1.5% over the last 8 years is a NON STARTER. Obama's GDP growth was the lowest of any President in the modern era(since WW2). Not only did he have the lowest growth rate, Obama doubled the debt from 10 to 20 trillion.

Interest rates are now rising(they were at historic lows during Obama whole 8 year term).. We are 20 trillion in debt. "If" interest rates go back to their historical norm we will have to spend more on debt service then we spend on our military.

The only fix is getting the economy moving more then a 3% GDP growth rate. Once that happens then work on the budget deficit and federal spending.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:35 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49050 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:34 am to
Guess the fed gov will just have to cut spending.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:37 am to
This is a very good plan.

One key component that will kickstart investment in the USA is the expensing of capital spending. THIS WILL BE HUGE. The bill will allow it for five years. They should just allow it forever. It doesn't really reduce over all taxes it just matches the taxes with the cash flow. A business spending a million dollars on a machine can immediately expense that machine for tax purposes when it pays the money instead of expensing it over 5 or 7 years as we do now.

I think it is stupid to continue the mortgage interest deduction---lower the rates even more and eliminate this deduction. Our population is getting older and lots of people have less mortgage interest to deduct and would be better with a lower rate. I should not have to pay more taxes because my house is paid for.

This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:39 am
Posted by alphaandomega
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Member since Aug 2012
13788 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:39 am to
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Honest question: Would you support these tax cuts knowing that they will increase the federal deficit?


Sure because those changes will grow the economy and there will be more taxes paid to the government (even at the lower rate).

I expect when the GDP is over 4% that the deficits will reduce, unless the swamp dwellers (on both sides of the isle) increase spending...
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:42 am to
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* preserves mortgage and charitable deductions, but promises to gut many others

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* the document does not mention eliminating carried interest tax benefits used by hedge fund managers



Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14543 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:43 am to
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do not identify the numerous tax breaks that they say will be removed in order to offset some of the trillions of dollars in revenue lost by cutting tax rates.


Well until we know this, we don't really know anything.


The bullet points are dessert, we need to see the vegetables.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24762 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:54 am to
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Honest question: Would you support these tax cuts knowing that they will increase the federal deficit?



The deficit should not reflect the tax rate. The tax rate should influence the budget. Less government programs is a good start to reducing the deficit on current taxation plans. This is a simple concept. Defund all the wasted bullshite. We should pay for federal programs that boost infrastructure and military and thats about it. Cant control your pecker? Not our problem.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263366 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:56 am to
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plan for massive tax cuts


Posted by Mr Meeseeks
In the Meeseek's box
Member since Sep 2017
199 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:05 am to
Average families have got to be loving the standard deduction being doubled
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99856 posts
Posted on 9/27/17 at 11:23 am to
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Honest question: Would you support these tax cuts knowing that they will increase the federal deficit?


Dishonest question is dishonest.

When Reagan did this in the early 80s, tax revenues DOUBLED.

Dem Congress couldn't help themselves.
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