re: Trumps tweet on Rand Paul

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I think Trump is trying to be a realist here. We're not going to get a Rand-quality bill passed through both houses

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You certainly won't get that because trump doesn't like Rands approach to the problem. Trump is a liberal Dem from Ny, there is virtually nothing about Rand's politics that appeals to him.

You elected a lifelong liberal Democrat and you think the reason he won't push for a rand Paul approach to Healthcare is because he is a realist?

Trump at least understands that what he wants, specifically (like Rand) may not sell in both houses of congress. He also understands that adaptations can be made later. At his core, he is a deal maker. This implies that you will NEVER get exactly what you want and there is compromise in EVERY deal.

The important thing to remember is that if Obamacare is not repealed soon, it may never be repealed. That's the key here. Whatever flaws there may be in the replacement can be changed down the road.

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I don't think Trump gives two shits about health care or any particular policy, he'd sign Berniecare or full repeal with equal enthusiasm if they got put on his desk and not think twice.

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Agreed, he would sign anything put in front of him. Except Rand care.

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He was been a lifelong liberal Democrat because he lived in New York and courted popularity, not because of any liberal principles.

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Of course it's not principled. One of the most annoying thing about him is his complete lack of guiding principles. What you are saying makes total sense, and most people fall into the category of "politics of my parents" but that doesn't refute my premise that he won't ever be this closeted classical liberal who buttfricks the state from the inside. People who think he ever will be that are projecting onto trump, or delusional. Or both.

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he'd sign Berniecare

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I don't know already called it a curse on the US and its people

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Democrats said the same thing about Obamacare and you're seeing the results of that now. It can only be changed down the road if you keep power.

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Its not even close to the same thing. If an entitlement like Obamacare festers too long, it becomes politically impossible to get rid of, and if dems regain power, they wont even bother themselves with repeal and replace. See social security.

I'll add that small, incremental fixes, over time and across administrations are in the best interest of the people.

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The important thing to remember is that if Obamacare is not repealed soon, it may never be repealed. That's the key here. Whatever flaws there may be in the replacement can be changed down the road.

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We aren't going to slowly deconstruct the welfare state through a meticulous series of compromises. There is no indication that the replacement will be better, or that it will be more easily deconstructed. There is a lot of evidence that it will be neither.

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Look I'm a Trump supporter but he is siding on the wrong side on this one. Rand Paul isnt a negative force he is about the only one that could really straighten this shite out.

Trump is so caught up in just getting ANYTHING passed that he is going to push for a shite bill to pass. Rand Paul should have been in charge of writing this repeal from day 1.

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The problem for politicians is that they often cannot see farther than 2 or 4 years ahead. They believe they were elected on a mandate to change everything NOW, and that if they do not deliver at least the appearance of that, they will be voted out.

What they do not realize is that politicians who are impediments to policy are not walls, but opportunities. In Trump's book, he talked about taking the most radical possible stance first, forcing opposition to suggest a compromise further in the direction one wants to go. What someone like Trump should do is the opposite of what Trump is doing now. Trump was elected as an outsider, not an insider. He shouldn't try to play this as an insider maneuvering from within the system and building coalitions. NO he should be above the system, beyond it, throwing bombs at it.

I have said from day one, Trump should embrace outsiders like Rand. He should take up their cause. He should demand that plan and no plan else. He should pitch that plan directly to the American people via twitter. He should stage rallies and town halls all over America to educate them on that plan and explain the benefits and drawbacks. He should tell his base that this is the plan they elected him to enact.

If the GOPe and democrats refuse to cooporate, GREAT! You want them to fight you! If they fight you, it shows that those politicians do not fight for the American people. It shows that they do not believe in Conservative principles no matter what their re-election ads state on tv. Then, you challenge them, you find willing candidates in every district in every state willing to take up your cause. You threaten every single incumbent that refuses to take up your issue with a primary challenge. You use twitter and the 24 hour outrage news cycle to promote them. You replace early every fake conservative that stands in your way. How? Because the only people with lower approval ratings than Donald Trump, are literally every politician who opposes him.

Health care, in this case, would not get passed this year, or the year after, or the year after that. But, if successful, the perfect bill would be passed eventually, likely during a second term, and everyone would be far better off.

The problem is, Trump doesn't have the balls to do that. He doesn't have the patience to do that. Finally, he lacks the knowledge base with which to properly discern what the best plan is. He is too short-term minded and will lose with short-term strategy because he cannot see the long game. Conservatives never see the long game, never can they visage more than one news or one election cycle ahead. They're always reacting, never proacting.

Trump finally broke the media stranglehold on narrative and consensus. He beat them at their own game, used their outrage against them, but now as POTUS, he's giving up his position of strength to get beat on his opponents' terms. How disappointing.

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We aren't going to slowly deconstruct the welfare state through a meticulous series of compromises.

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If Obamacare is still law past mid-terms, you wont have to ever worry about compromise with healthcare again because we will be stuck with it forever. Take what you can get, when you can get it.

You are more likely to deconstruct the welfare state incrementally than to get sweeping reforms. This is just a fact. shite, we cant even get republicans to support a clean repeal.

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It amazes me that the GOP wants to rebrand

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It shouldnt. The original authors were GOPe. Scrapped it because it would've destroyed the party. Obama fell in love with parts of it and so he jumped on the bandwagon.