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What is really going on with the football program?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:47 pm
It just doesn't make sense that Alleva would even consider Orgeron much less hire him. I'm trying to understand the thought process of this hire. But it has to be because of a bigger problem than what is known.
No way in hell did he think Orgeron was a good hire. I'm starting to think that Orgeron was the ONLY option he had. And if he was the only option, why did no other coach want to be at one of the easiest places to win and play for championships? LSU should have some of the best up and coming coaches in the country begging for the job. And good established coaches from lesser football school's would be interested.
I'm not talking about the superstar coaches like Saban, Urban or Pete Carroll. But why would coaches like Fleck or Mullen not be interested? Tom Herman and Jimbo were never coming.
If it really was a lack of qualified candidates then that is a serious red flag. Something big is keeping them away and that isnt good.
But if there were plenty of qualified coaches applying for the job then that means Alleva has to have something mentally wrong going on like early onset dementia. No sane person would hire Orgeron to run their program.
I would love to see what coaches if any reached out to LSU. It would also help me understand if to be able to see who LSU contacted and why they said no. I only know of jimbo, herman and Orgeron that were considered. Anyone that i dont remember?
No way in hell did he think Orgeron was a good hire. I'm starting to think that Orgeron was the ONLY option he had. And if he was the only option, why did no other coach want to be at one of the easiest places to win and play for championships? LSU should have some of the best up and coming coaches in the country begging for the job. And good established coaches from lesser football school's would be interested.
I'm not talking about the superstar coaches like Saban, Urban or Pete Carroll. But why would coaches like Fleck or Mullen not be interested? Tom Herman and Jimbo were never coming.
If it really was a lack of qualified candidates then that is a serious red flag. Something big is keeping them away and that isnt good.
But if there were plenty of qualified coaches applying for the job then that means Alleva has to have something mentally wrong going on like early onset dementia. No sane person would hire Orgeron to run their program.
I would love to see what coaches if any reached out to LSU. It would also help me understand if to be able to see who LSU contacted and why they said no. I only know of jimbo, herman and Orgeron that were considered. Anyone that i dont remember?
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 10:50 pm
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Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:48 pm to Soup Sammich
Oh good. A new topic with a fresh perspective
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:50 pm to Soup Sammich
quote:
would love to see what coaches if any reached out to LSU. It would also help me understand if to be able to see who LSU contacted
You won't ever know this
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:50 pm to Soup Sammich
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Herman and Jimbo were never coming.
we do not know this. stop speaking in absolutes like you know something. fuente, petersen, mcintyre, fleck, chryst, briles, gundy. mullen, all would have been better hires than O IF we could not land jimbo and herman.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:50 pm to Soup Sammich
I wonder this almost every day man. Alleva is just completely clueless. He's burning our football program to the ground like he was hired by some other rival school to do it.
When he hired Orgeron as the head coach I literally couldn't grasp that it was reality. You jusy hired ED frickING ORGERON???? Our defensive line coach is the one that got the job? frick you Joe. frick. YOU.
When he hired Orgeron as the head coach I literally couldn't grasp that it was reality. You jusy hired ED frickING ORGERON???? Our defensive line coach is the one that got the job? frick you Joe. frick. YOU.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 pm to Soup Sammich
O wasn't the only option. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A DAMN SEARCH.
O campaigned for the job, the propaganda was set in motion, and supposedly Duke Riley's Instagram post after the game against A&M convinced Alleva, because Alleva is so incompetent that he fricked up firing Miles 2 years in a row.
O is probably going to set us back, and it will take another amazing coach to rebuild us. But the decision should never have been put in Alleva's hands alone.
O campaigned for the job, the propaganda was set in motion, and supposedly Duke Riley's Instagram post after the game against A&M convinced Alleva, because Alleva is so incompetent that he fricked up firing Miles 2 years in a row.
O is probably going to set us back, and it will take another amazing coach to rebuild us. But the decision should never have been put in Alleva's hands alone.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:51 pm to Soup Sammich
I agree. The hire of Zero is an all time head scratcher. Why fire Miles to do that? It is just plain dumb.
And top it off with this supposedly huge buyout? What the hell? Is Alleva a being paid by others in the SEC to help bring LSU down?
And top it off with this supposedly huge buyout? What the hell? Is Alleva a being paid by others in the SEC to help bring LSU down?
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 pm to Skooter
frick it. My post was too long and their are no answers. Dont know why i even care anymore.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 pm to crazy4lsu
It's all irreverent. There was no search that took place.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:52 pm to Soup Sammich
Lol they were worried about losing recruits or offending o
They hired O to save the recruiting class yet it will cost them more down the road
Winning programs attract recruits
Period
They hired O to save the recruiting class yet it will cost them more down the road
Winning programs attract recruits
Period
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 pm to Soup Sammich
Not trying to defend anything Joe did.
When O was named interim, apart from the UF fluke, the season was much better. Blowout wins vs Arky, A&M, and Louisville to finish the season. This made O a viable fallback option.
IMO, because Joe is so inept at hiring a FB coach, he simply hied O when Herman and Jimbo declined.
When O was named interim, apart from the UF fluke, the season was much better. Blowout wins vs Arky, A&M, and Louisville to finish the season. This made O a viable fallback option.
IMO, because Joe is so inept at hiring a FB coach, he simply hied O when Herman and Jimbo declined.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 pm to sheek
Yeah. A certain segment of the fan base is now becoming aware of what a terrible frick up that was. I can't believe we had arguments where people said O was a better coach than Miles.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:54 pm to I-H8-BAMA
Alleva doesn't care about LSU
He showed that when he hit selfish about Herman wanting to go to the highest bidder. He didn't even try and then said we got out coach. Dude is selfish. Should have had a real interview process. Why even fire Miles during the season then.
He showed that when he hit selfish about Herman wanting to go to the highest bidder. He didn't even try and then said we got out coach. Dude is selfish. Should have had a real interview process. Why even fire Miles during the season then.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:56 pm to sheek
quote:
There was no search that took place.
this i can believe.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:56 pm to Soup Sammich
I'm fairly convinced that we ended up with Orgeron because Alleva was embarrassed when Herman played him for the Texas job. When that all fell apart, he rushed Orgeron to the podium before Texas could announce Herman to make it look like Orgeron was his choice all along and ESPN got it wrong. It really was the most ridiculous coaching "search" possible, and the above scenario is the only way I can make any sense of it.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:58 pm to Soup Sammich
I hate to say it, but during the search Tim Brando nailed it. Repeatedly said the leadership at LSU will prevent a great hire (King and Useless Joe) sadly until these two morons are replaced we will continue to have less than ideal results.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:59 pm to medtiger
I think the Pro CEO element won out in the wake of the Herman and Fisher debacle
I am no Alleva fan but it looked to me like he gave them what they say they wanted, I don't think Alleva really had much choice after his two guys spurned us
The contract is another story but remember FKA and the BOS approved the deal
I am no Alleva fan but it looked to me like he gave them what they say they wanted, I don't think Alleva really had much choice after his two guys spurned us
The contract is another story but remember FKA and the BOS approved the deal
Posted on 9/18/17 at 10:59 pm to I-H8-BAMA
It just doesn't seem possible to fire one of the all time winning coaches to hire Zero???? WTF!!!
I was frustrated with Miles toward the end. He was a great man and a largely successful, albeit maddening at times, coach. Figured LSU must have had a great plan in place when they fired him. Alleva fired him to hire the fricking waterboy. What a joke!!!
I was frustrated with Miles toward the end. He was a great man and a largely successful, albeit maddening at times, coach. Figured LSU must have had a great plan in place when they fired him. Alleva fired him to hire the fricking waterboy. What a joke!!!
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:01 pm to crazy4lsu
It has been said Alleva wanted to fire Miles after 2015 but was overruled. I'd therefore cut him some slack, except he's proven to be a royal shithead otherwise.
Someone said the big buyout was not for O but for Alleva. To protect himself in a way.
Someone said the big buyout was not for O but for Alleva. To protect himself in a way.
Posted on 9/18/17 at 11:06 pm to beauchristopher
More 3*s rollin in
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