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re: How does the religious right justify with the ending of DACA
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:26 am to Taxing Authority
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:26 am to Taxing Authority
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So.... if a parent commits a crime, say, severely assaults a ghey person... should he not face jail time because it would split up his family if he we're incarcerated?
A violent crime is lot different than the "crime" of these people, many of whom were escaping violence, war, and starvation, and possible death for their children. But you know that though.
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Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:27 am to Toddy
quote:........ then change the damn laws so it is not illegal to cross our borders unchecked.
A violent crime is lot different than the "crime" of these people, many of whom were escaping violence, war, and starvation, and possible death for their children. But you know that though.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:29 am to tiggerthetooth
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They do not have equivalence. Committing crimes as an ILLEGAL alien =/= committing crimes as a LEGAL CITIZEN. You talk as if they should be on the same playing field.
The overwhelming majority of these DACA kids have no criminal history. What crime have they committed? Going to college, paying taxes, and being a contributing member of society. The majority of people (even republicans) support letting the DACAS stay here. Most people are reasonable enough that they realize it's wrong to vilify these kids .
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:31 am to Toddy
Muh feels. Send them back.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:33 am to DumbCollegeKid
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Muh feels. Send them back.
Says the Dumb College Kid who probably hasn't accomplished half of what these DACA kids have in their lives.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:35 am to Toddy
I'm legal... So, there's that...
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:37 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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then change the damn laws so it is not illegal to cross our borders unchecked.
No meaningful immigration reform is going to happen for a while. Much more politically advantageous in some quarters to paint these people in negative ways and narratives to gin up division and resentment.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:38 am to Toddy
quote:Nope.
A violent crime is lot different than the "crime" of these people
quote:So if a poor person robs a bank, doesn't hurt anyone, and has kids... you set him free?
many of whom were escaping violence, war, and starvation, and possible death for their children.
quote:I also know it isn't justification for committing a crime.
But you know that though.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:40 am to Toddy
"Meaningful immigration reform" means amnesty. We've seen this song and dance before. We aren't buying it anymore.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:40 am to Toddy
quote:False. By definition
The overwhelming majority of these DACA kids have no criminal history.
quote:Illlegal entry into the in the US.
What crime have they committed?
quote:No one has "vilified" them. You're making isht up.
they realize it's wrong to vilify these kids .
This post was edited on 9/4/17 at 1:41 am
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:42 am to DumbCollegeKid
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I'm legal... So, there's that...
Yes, because you lucked up and was born here. It's a shame many of these "legal" people haven't and will never accomplish what these a lot of these DACA kids have. Many of these kids would have gone on to high paying prosperous careers. Need people like that to subsidize all the ones that were born here "legally"and will leech off the government most of their lives.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:44 am to Toddy
quote:Why are you in here acting like the average "DACA kid" is some wonder child? There is literally no evidence that the child of an illegal immigrant is more functional than americans that were born here.
Toddy
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:44 am to Toddy
quote:None of this is relevant. Economic accomplishment isn't a condition of citizenship. Just more emo-drivel.
here. It's a shame many of these "legal" people haven't and will never accomplish what these a lot of these DACA kids have. Many of these kids would have gone on to high paying prosperous careers. Need people like that to subsidize all the ones that were born here "legally"and will leech off the government most of their lives.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:44 am to Toddy
Your post is full of meaningless adjectives that dont reflect reality. You're distraught over this, I get it. No need to toss aside logic to feel better, though.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Why are you in here acting like the average "DACA kid" is some wonder child? There is literally no evidence that the child of an illegal immigrant is more functional than americans that were born here
I would love to see some numbers. I bet AS A WHOLE, they have done better than A LOT of the kids whose families have been here for generations and nothing to show for it.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:You just don't get it do you? There people are Special. They are so awesome, they deserve to be exempt from our legal system. They should have special privileges us--mere citizens--do not deserve. Hey should not have to comply with mere laws and legalities. Too much trouble. They are too good for that. Only "white trash" people should be subject to restrictive laws. You know.. kinda like the Jews had their own laws.
Why are you in here acting like the average "DACA kid" is some wonder child?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:49 am to Toddy
I'll bet as a whole they haven't, though Its completely irrelevant. I have as much substantiation for my post as you do for yours. Are you starting to see how this works?
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:50 am to DumbCollegeKid
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Your post is full of meaningless adjectives that dont reflect reality. You're distraught over this, I get it. No need to toss aside logic to feel better, though.
What logic? Sending a kid back to a foreign country with which they have no ties is logical? That's the reality.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:52 am to goldennugget
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Maybe they should try to make things better in their own countries
That's why I think Catholic Church is full of shite... advocate hard for open borders in the US, how about investing more in 3rd world shitholes
What a concept.
Posted on 9/4/17 at 1:52 am to Toddy
"Ties" is subjective, and irrelevant. Irrespective of their "ties", the law was broken. They should not benefit because it makes you feel better.
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