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You ever feel bad that Germany doesn't have any sort of World War 2 Wehrmacht memorials?
Posted on 8/20/17 at 12:42 am
Posted on 8/20/17 at 12:42 am
How many truly innocent young German men lost their lives in that struggle but will never be recognized because they were a part of the "evil Wehrmacht"? It's sad that a some random 18 year old German kid who fought for his homeland, same as any American or Brit, will always be remembered as evil and terrible. I detest the Nazis, but Germany's washing away of WW2 and the sacrifices made their hardworking people always irks me. War has good and bad on both sides, always. The Nazis were obviously the "Bad guys" but the German soldiers still deserve a good bit of respect.
EDIT: No, I don't have a tiki torch.
EDIT: No, I don't have a tiki torch.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 12:45 am
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Posted on 8/20/17 at 12:44 am to _Hurricane_
Honestly, no. No I don't feel bad.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:48 am to _Hurricane_
No, I don't really care one way or the other. Wouldn't care if they had monuments. Weird thing to think about.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:53 am to _Hurricane_
There are some. I think the rule covers strictly nazi stuff.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:57 am to _Hurricane_
They have cemeteries.
But kids don't got to Klaus Barbie Elementary School on Hitler Lane.
Meanwhile, our chilluns go to Lee High on Raphael Semmes Drive.
But kids don't got to Klaus Barbie Elementary School on Hitler Lane.
Meanwhile, our chilluns go to Lee High on Raphael Semmes Drive.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 1:59 am to _Hurricane_
It's silly tjat they wouldn't honor their dead. But they still honor Erwin Rommel.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 2:59 am to _Hurricane_
Different type of war; different politics.
Germany's invasion of Poland (and beyond)
=/=
American Civil War
Germany's invasion of Poland (and beyond)
=/=
American Civil War
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 3:00 am
Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:16 am to _Hurricane_
The SS troops were bad but your average Wehrmacht guys were kids thrown out as cannon fodder just like our kids.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 3:30 am to _Hurricane_
quote:I feel much worse for folks who've apparently never traveled there, and don't know better
You ever feel bad that Germany doesn't have any sort of World War 2 Wehrmacht memorials?
etc., etc.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 5:03 am to _Hurricane_
quote:
The Nazis were obviously the "Bad guys" but the German soldiers still deserve a good bit of respect.
I totally agree - the average german soldier where honorable men of good character.
The leadership was evil to the core - but the young men caught up in it had no real choice.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 6:43 am to _Hurricane_
It's sad how stupid and angry you are.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:46 am to _Hurricane_
I don't care about that has been country enough to care whether or not they have statues of their army.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 7:53 am to _Hurricane_
Almost every village in Germany has a small memorial to their war dead from the world wars. They're very respectful of their dead.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:25 am to _Hurricane_
There's actually an international controversy between Poland and Russia because Poland wants to remove statues and memorials in their country that were erected to the Red Army. Russia was pretty pissed that the Poles wanted to remove them. To the point that they were considering political action against the Poles if they followed through.
Russia itself is actually an interesting case study for statues that were erected to a historical movement that is broadly viewed, at least internationally, to have been criminal and abhorrent. I mean shite, they still have a tomb to Lenin for Christ's sake. The Bolsheviks kickstarted the murderous authoritarian party of the 20th Century that only ratcheted up with the Stalinist regime. I've never been to Russia but from what I've gathered, the days of the USSR are still looked to with great fondness by a sizable portion of the population. Of course it's complicated by the fact that they would naturally seek to memorialize their national struggle against Germany in WWII yet at the same time, they were a state with a comparable degree of criminality and inhumanity during that same period that sought to conquer, enslave, and murder pitilessly those who didn't totally acquiesce to the regime and it's political aims.
Russia itself is actually an interesting case study for statues that were erected to a historical movement that is broadly viewed, at least internationally, to have been criminal and abhorrent. I mean shite, they still have a tomb to Lenin for Christ's sake. The Bolsheviks kickstarted the murderous authoritarian party of the 20th Century that only ratcheted up with the Stalinist regime. I've never been to Russia but from what I've gathered, the days of the USSR are still looked to with great fondness by a sizable portion of the population. Of course it's complicated by the fact that they would naturally seek to memorialize their national struggle against Germany in WWII yet at the same time, they were a state with a comparable degree of criminality and inhumanity during that same period that sought to conquer, enslave, and murder pitilessly those who didn't totally acquiesce to the regime and it's political aims.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 9:28 am to _Hurricane_
But they do. I have seen them.
For example, near Kaiserslautern, there is a small memorial to the 36th Infantry Division. It's tucked away just outside of town in a pleasant and lightly wooded meadow. No swastikas on the memorial, of course. The 36th was composed of men from the area.
For example, near Kaiserslautern, there is a small memorial to the 36th Infantry Division. It's tucked away just outside of town in a pleasant and lightly wooded meadow. No swastikas on the memorial, of course. The 36th was composed of men from the area.
Posted on 8/20/17 at 10:16 am to _Hurricane_
It's bullshite and a false equivalency to compare putting up statues honoring confederate leaders and soldiers to putting up statues in Germany honoring Hitler and Nazis.
After the Civil war, it was decided in order to unite the country again, we would allow the South to honor their heritage including their leaders like Gen. Lee and the soldiers who fought for the South even if those statues weren't erected until after the Jim Crow laws were outlawed.
Germany didn't have to unite it's people after WWII. The German people as a whole had to accept guilt for what their country and leaders did in WWII in their name.
That's why there are no statues honoring Hitler and Nazis in Germany.
After the Civil war, it was decided in order to unite the country again, we would allow the South to honor their heritage including their leaders like Gen. Lee and the soldiers who fought for the South even if those statues weren't erected until after the Jim Crow laws were outlawed.
Germany didn't have to unite it's people after WWII. The German people as a whole had to accept guilt for what their country and leaders did in WWII in their name.
That's why there are no statues honoring Hitler and Nazis in Germany.
This post was edited on 8/20/17 at 10:25 am
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