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A different motive for statue removal

Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:51 am
Posted by bamafan1001
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:51 am
Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?

I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment. Its our ancestors, most of whom were non-slave owning, poor workers and farmers who fought for the Confederacy. This is a giant middle finger to the South. When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists, they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.

Progressives hate us for opposing Obama policies for 8 years and electing Trump. When they attack your family's history, they are attacking you.
This post was edited on 8/19/17 at 10:55 am
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27900 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:53 am to
Well it's that damn George Soros, haven't you heard?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
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71317 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 10:53 am to
a similar thought crossed my mind

it's like a chance to kill conservative whites all over again
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13611 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:03 am to
Libtards are trying to prove that Trump's supporters really are a basket full of deplorables. It's just that simple.

Step one, attack enough heritage statues to trigger actual hate groups.

Two, DNC politicians then have the "alt-right" morons forced from their protest area (the park) into the streets where the alt-left morons are. Alt-left morons start the violence and the alt-right morons respond.

Step three, liberal biased MSM declares violence due to Right, and attack the right and Trump 24/7! DNC and GOPe quickly join in.

Step four, rinse and repeat!
Posted by Stingray
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
12422 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:07 am to
It is north/urban Vs south/rural all over again.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19325 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:11 am to
Funny thing though, it was democrats that put those statues up to begin with. It sure as hell wasnt republicans who carved Stone Mountain.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:17 am to
quote:


Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?


I think it's a fairly easy argument that the removal of the statues in Nola was a politically rational move.

I don't know the political/racial demographics of Charlottesville.

That being said, from the standpoint of avoiding creating rallying points for the worst among us, politicians should avoid removal based on what's best for the community for now. The political climate is too charged for removal IMV.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:22 am to
quote:


Progressives hate us for opposing Obama policies for 8 years and electing Trump. When they attack your family's history, they are attacking you.


You mean like you guys attacked Obama like trying to claim he was born in Kenya or was a muslim or...well you get the idea.

Progressives don't oppose you because you didn't like 44...they oppose you because they disagree with you.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
64408 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment.


Yeah, keep thinking that.

apples and oranges.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7480 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:29 am to
Not long ago, the Atlantic had a series of articles online about manufacturing facilities opening in the south. Many of the comments basically said that the South was fighting the Civil War all over again by becoming hostile to unions with the intent of making the South more business friendly at the North's expense.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 11:29 am to
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When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists...
no one thinks EVERYONE in the south at the time was racist, but the very "foundation" and "cornerstone" of the confederate government was white supremacy. ignoring that is the revisionist history people here claim to hate.

quote:

...they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.
jesus christ, dont be such a drama queen. stop looking for any possible microaggression to play up your victimhood.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?

I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment. Its our ancestors, most of whom were non-slave owning, poor workers and farmers who fought for the Confederacy. This is a giant middle finger to the South. When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists, they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.

Progressives hate us for opposing Obama policies for 8 years and electing Trump. When they attack your family's history, they are attacking you.


I agree with you. What I really think, is they think they want to see Martial law implemented, or something to that extreme as to wreck the social fabriic of this nation.

Let's face the facts, the progressives have 99% control of what and how this nation gets its information, 100% of the democratic house and senate(there are no moderates), plus the RINO's. They seek socialism, a world where government controls all facets of business and the peoples life. Not to mention the GOPE's. Their goal is to create a unified world where corporations control all facets of government and the peoples life.

This be damned: We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
6366 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:31 pm to
Since some folks caved, the progs have their in and will continue to push for anything that destroys history. They are trying to create their own perverted progressive "utopia" where all voices are opposition are silenced.
Posted by MichaelP DS80
Member since May 2016
85 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 6:27 pm to
If Confederate statues are being torn down because of the Confederacy's link to slavery, why aren't Planned Parenthood clinics being torn down because of their plan to kill all Black people? “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,” Margaret Sanger(Founder of Planned Parenthood) —Letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble on Dec., 10, 1939
I'll tell you why, the tearing down of the statues has nothing to do with racism and everything to do with promoting a divisive narrative for political purposes.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Member since Jan 2011
19736 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

I think the answer is frustration and anger over white southerners unwavering opposition to progressivism and support of Trump. Removing statues is punishment. Its our ancestors, most of whom were non-slave owning, poor workers and farmers who fought for the Confederacy. This is a giant middle finger to the South. When they portray your ancestors as traitorous, evil, white supremacists, they are saying you are illegitimate Americans and your input shouldnt be considered legitimate regarding the future of this country.



Stand back from the situation and look at the big picture. The Progressives lost their elected power when Hillary went down and worse yet a non-conventional president was elected. The Progressive playbook is to create anarchy any way they can. The issue is not the issue. The issue is Power. The goal is to take down the govt until they can insert themselves into power. They do not give a hoot about statues - they just want to start an arguement that keeps them relevant.

Notice, that since this issue has come up you have not heard the word "Russia" once. You have not heard about border security, or LGBT rights, etc.

Can you imagine where we would be if one of those wimp Republican challengers had won the White House (probably would not have beaten Hillary anyway). I cannot imagine Rubio, Bush, or Kasich trying to deal with these people. Cruz maybe...
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?Ive wondered where this sudden groundswell of progressive will to remove confederate statues when it really isnt a good political move for them. Its not rational at all, so what is it?


Righting a wrong.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
144180 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:10 pm to
It's nothing more than "pay back".
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
20435 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 9:22 pm to
That's it, to a letter.
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