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re: Can we admit this was the wrong time to call out the "alt left"?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:58 am to Salmon
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:58 am to Salmon
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Why hasn't Trump called them out before? He has had plenty of opportunities.
The reason no one knows who antifa is has nothing to do with if a president called them out. Average Americans are notoriously unaware of what politicians say on a daily basis
But if it was liberals being assaulted everywhere that shite would be 24/7 on every major Network with special edition stories about who those people were and then you'd be hard-pressed to find an American who didn't know who they are
Make no mistake. Covering up who antifa is was willful and intentional and will continue
So no. I really don't think that Americans who recognize they actually have to fear going to political events give a flying frick what liberals think is appropriate in terms of discussion times
Especially when that same group showed up ready to assault people again for holding up signs and flags
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Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:58 am to udtiger
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This would be like your kids fighting and they both caused it but you only correct/punish one of them.
Lol....yep, just like my kids fighting...if one was a nazi and the other one stood up to their nazi beliefs. Both straight to timeout.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:59 am to PDXDawg
First amendment bro
Posted on 8/16/17 at 7:59 am to PDXDawg
You'd let one kid beat the other with a stick? Nah. You'd intervene something the police failed to do. Letting this get out of hand is part of the problem.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:00 am to PDXDawg
quote:I think you meant to say if both were Nazis because make no mistake antifa are Nazis
Lol....yep, just like my kids fighting...if one was a nazi and the other one stood up to their nazi beliefs. Both straight to timeout
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:00 am to Salmon
Trump- ketchup and mayo are both gross
liberals- clearly Trump sides with ketchup because it stains more and he didnt say it's worse.
liberals- clearly Trump sides with ketchup because it stains more and he didnt say it's worse.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:00 am to Salmon
Just answer my hypothetical. Don't worry about the rest of your assumptions. Answer my question.
But you are. By completely dismissing any wrongdoing of the left and refusing to acknowledge any blame outside of the guy that drove the car and his group you have already chosen a side. Blame lies with both groups.
He did. He denounced all violence and asked that all people of all colors creeds and codes come together against hate because we're all Americans. What is so wrong with that? It's a great statement.
When exactly is that time? Why call out and attack one side and let the other side escape unscathed just to do this again?
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Do we have evidence of who initiated the violence? Both sides had weapons. Both sides were violent. Both sides came to fight.
I'm not arguing otherwise. I'm not defending any side.
But you are. By completely dismissing any wrongdoing of the left and refusing to acknowledge any blame outside of the guy that drove the car and his group you have already chosen a side. Blame lies with both groups.
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A person died because a lunatic took the violence way too far. Address that
He did. He denounced all violence and asked that all people of all colors creeds and codes come together against hate because we're all Americans. What is so wrong with that? It's a great statement.
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There is a time and place to address the other violence. Now wasn't the time.
When exactly is that time? Why call out and attack one side and let the other side escape unscathed just to do this again?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:00 am to ShortyRob
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The reason no one knows who antifa is has nothing to do with if a president called them out. Average Americans are notoriously unaware of what politicians say on a daily basis
Trump has changed that.
People literally dissect every Trump tweet.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:01 am to AUbused
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That is equivalent to me saying if you are a Christian so you bear the burden of millions dead. Its just silly.
Damn that ironic hypocrisy flew way over your head, didn't it?
This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 8:02 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:02 am to Sun God
they have a right to free speech but everyone else who's not a nazi has a right to tell them to stfu too. That's what happened and one of the nazis decided to kill people
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:02 am to Salmon
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This post was edited on 8/16/17 at 8:03 am
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:03 am to Salmon
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Trump has changed that.
People literally dissect every Trump tweet.
Um, not everyone.
Not even a majority.
In fact, it is a very small subset of people in a particular industry (media) that does this.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:03 am to Breesus
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But you are. By completely dismissing any wrongdoing of the left
I have not dismissed anything.
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He did. He denounced all violence and asked that all people of all colors creeds and codes come together against hate because we're all Americans. What is so wrong with that? It's a great statement.
That isn't the statement I'm talking about.
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When exactly is that time? Why call out and attack one side and let the other side escape unscathed just to do this again?
Berkeley? All the other times ANTIFA or other left groups have been violent?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:03 am to Salmon
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Saying "well those others guys were being mean too!" when the other group literally killed someone is lacking all situational awareness.
Who applied for the permit to protest? If it was the white nationalist group, then if ANTIFA doesn't show up, does anybody get killed?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:04 am to Salmon
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It's not taking sides.
Yes. It is. Bashing one side and completely ignoring the other is choosing a side.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:04 am to Salmon
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It's not taking sides.
Oh yes it is.
The media and the Left want Trump to only chastise white supremacists and completely ignore Antifa's methods. That is taking sides.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:04 am to Salmon
Had he called out antifa after Berkely you honestly believe this would all be different in the eyes of the left and the media?
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:05 am to PDXDawg
You have no fricking clue what happened.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:05 am to Magician2
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Dude are you serious?
ANTIFA has been wrecking shop for the last 2 years almost every weekend. Obama never called them out. In fact you had major Dem leaders fanning the flames calling on people to resist. They absolutely (alt left) deserved to be called out this weekend
Yep! All the Antifa/BLM/ SJW bullshittee that's gone on the past 2 years has caused more divisiveness than even Obammy! Although, Obammy was their biggest cheerleader.
So after 2 years of leftist BS the leftist finally got the response they were looking for, they got the neo Nazis and White Supremacist to come out and play.
Was Charlottesville staged? I'm not convinced but it was certainly mishandled by Governor McAuliffe and the local authorities in Charlottesville, and the Enemedia was salivating to draft the narrative.
Posted on 8/16/17 at 8:05 am to PDXDawg
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yep, just like my kids fighting...if one was a nazi and the other one stood up to their nazi beliefs. Both straight to timeout.
What if one was a Nazi and the other a tyrannical communist?
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