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re: 61 year-old man (concealed carry) turns the tables on armed robber (Vid included)

Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:52 am to
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:52 am to
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"Never shot a gun before.



I'm pro 2nd Amendment, but this is just insane. Why would you ever carry a firearm without first seeing how it fires? Is it prone to jamming? Is the safety tricky? How is the trigger pull? Old Man River got very lucky.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:54 am to
Xavier Futrell
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:55 am to
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I'm pro 2nd Amendment, but this is just insane. Why would you ever carry a firearm without first seeing how it fires? Is it prone to jamming? Is the safety tricky? How is the trigger pull? Old Man River got very lucky.
Most of that shite doesn't matter when the time comes.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:56 am to
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If cops won't even talk about a shooting incident without a lawyer, then you shouldn't either.


While this is certainly good advice with respect to media, the cops want to get a statement from you when they arrive on the scene and get your account of what happened. So you will have to do some talking about the incident which makes it a different scenario than police shootings.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 10:58 am
Posted by Hangit
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:57 am to
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upvote bc home invader shot.


Yeah, it is a shame that elderly man has to live in the aisles of the store.

quote:

Jackie Chan


What was your favorite part of the video?
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 10:58 am
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:57 am to
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If cops won't even talk about a shooting incident without a lawyer, then you shouldn't either.
Do not even call 911 cause what you say will be released to the public and used against you. Let someone else call.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:59 am to
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While this is certainly good advice with respect to media, the cops want to get a statement from you when they arrive on the scene and get your account of what happened. So you will have to do some talking about the incident which makes it a different scenario than police shootings.

False. You do not forfeit your rights when you are in a situation that you felt you had to defend yours.
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 10:59 am to
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Most of that shite doesn't matter when the time comes.

yep, plus, I'd bet this is being taken out of context, I would imagine that he means that he's never fired a gun in anger, or in the heat of a conflict, or something like that
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:11 am to
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False. You do not forfeit your rights when you are in a situation that you felt you had to defend yours.



So if you refuse to talk to the cops and explain why and how you shot someone when they arrive on the scene, how are they supposed to not arrest you?

Of course you have the right to say nothing, but I'm not aware of that at all being necessary or common in the case of a self-defense shoot.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:15 am to
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So if you refuse to talk to the cops and explain why and how you shot someone when they arrive on the scene, how are they supposed to not arrest you?
Let em arrest. If you think you'll be in any mental state of mind to speak you go ahead. I'll let them take me in and let my atty do the talking. I rather be held over night than 50 to life.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:15 am to
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While this is certainly good advice with respect to media, the cops want to get a statement from you when they arrive on the scene and get your account of what happened. So you will have to do some talking about the incident which makes it a different scenario than police shootings.

Sorry, but I'm not doing that. I may say something like "I shot him while he was robbing me", but that's about it. All you have to say is "I'm not in any condition to give an account of the incident right now".
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:16 am to
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So if you refuse to talk to the cops and explain why and how you shot someone when they arrive on the scene, how are they supposed to not arrest you?

Would you rather spend a little while in jail or 20 years?
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:21 am to
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Would you rather spend a little while in jail or 20 years?
Exactly.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:22 am to
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Most of that shite doesn't matter when the time comes.


You serious Clark? The gun jams after the first shot. He has never fired a gun before. Will he have the wherewithal to clear the jam? What if that first shot missed and his attacker is now firing back. See the problem here?

It's foolish to carry a firearm without ever having fired a gun. Foolish. Unless yall are correct that he meant he's never fired a pistol in the heat of the moment.
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:22 am to
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Sorry, but I'm not doing that. I may say something like "I shot him while he was robbing me", but that's about it


Ok, well that's still saying something, which is my point.

I'm not saying expound but a broad rundown of why you shot someone, assuming you were in fact shooting in self defense, is reasonable.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:22 am to
"Never shot a gun before. All this is new to me."

How do you get a concealed carry without ever shooting?
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:24 am to
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Of course you have the right to say nothing, but I'm not aware of that at all being necessary or common in the case of a self-defense shoot.
For starters, ask D. Wilson, the cops who shot nil Al, and the guy who dropped Tway Tway Martin that.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 11:24 am
Posted by DuckManiak
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:24 am to
I hate that he says, "I didn't shoot to kill." Sure he did. He shot a perp with a firearm center mass. He's a self proclaimed novice with a firearm. How would he know where to shoot "not to kill, but save a life?"

Other than that, I'm glad that he didn't become a victim.
Posted by Geauxtiga
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Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:27 am to
I was referring to the trigger.

If I'm at your house and a burglar comes in, I'm grabbing whatever gun you toss me. frick the trigger pull.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
135222 posts
Posted on 8/7/17 at 11:27 am to
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How do you get a concealed carry without ever shooting?

Says here that you have to shoot 5 rounds at 4 yds

LINK

So now, his credibility can be called into question because he's lying. You see, this is why you never do what this guy did and talk to the press.
This post was edited on 8/7/17 at 11:31 am
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