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re: How is Slade Bolden not a top priority for this class?
Posted on 7/22/17 at 4:58 pm to reo45
Posted on 7/22/17 at 4:58 pm to reo45
quote:Extra points for citing something other than height/weight of why he is a WR first.
Here is all you need to understand, Bolden is a receiver first and running back second. He isn't a running back and doesn't run like one.
Unfortunately, I'd say you are correct on all points.
It's unfortunate because I think Bolden COULD be a huge asset to LSU if used as an offensive swiss army knife. Just the idea of him lining up in the backfield for 2 plays and then in the slot with some LB on him makes me tingle a little bit.
Fortunately, he's not unique in that ability. If LSU thinks they need that, and think they have the same utilization in other players, so be it. If a Provens is considered to be the same type/utilization and Staff think he has more upside, again... so be it.
Spots are valuable. Some damn good WRs out there this year. If LSU isn't giving him a spot because of the "label" of WR when there is a RB spot available, shame on them however. As much as I would love to see Bolden in the P&G and as much as I would like to be able to say that, I don't think it's the case. Your point about him not running like a RB is well made and taken. It has to be factored in.
ETA: WRs are expected to be able to block at every program. Even spread/air raid. Especially an Oregon type spread; how do you think that space that's created from the formation is used. Even TTU WRs have to block; many times their route is just to get into position to block for a quick-throw play (a long handoff).
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 5:03 pm
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:12 pm to I20goon
Might not be an issue... bolden had a terrific visit yesterday at tcu. LSU really needs to figure out this issue with not showing recruits enough attention.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:16 pm to arkytiger23
Bolden is a good player but he needs the ball to be effective.How many offensive plays do TCU have per game,and how many does Canada avg??
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:45 pm to Hunter318boy
How? Bolden could block or be a good decoy? Really only other things he could possibly do? He would be effective equally at each university. But in the big 12 his numbers would be way better and he'll have less depth to compete with. Tcu is at the top of their conference and has a good program plus their staff has treated him like royalty.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:55 pm to arkytiger23
18 yr Olds normally would prefer to go where they are loved more.Who wants to stay with a step parent that shows them no attention.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:35 pm to I20goon
I wasn't knocking him at all. He will make any team better playing in the slot and using him in motion to get mismatches. But, I have seen him as a running back, if the other team has equal talent: size, speed, quickness, at linebacker or defensive end, he is stalemated and fails to produce.
But, against these same players used in the slot? Or, if he is used in motion and moved out wide? He tears them a new a-hole. That is why many West Monroe fans were P.O. last year in the Central game going forward. The offense never gelled until late in the year and against Zachary last year he started off at QB. Zachary shut him and the running game down. They wised up and moved him to slot late in the 2nd quarter and he literally caught every ball and the TD if I remember correctly.
My top receivers on LSU board, if it were me, are in this order:
Marshall
Chase
Jason
Bolden
We need 4 receivers, period. But, we already have two in Jenkins and Jones. So, we take maybe 3 more at most.
Who you take off? And then we have out of state receivers still on the board.
Numbers game... I truly want him in a LSU uniform, but it isn't looking like it is going to happen. Sux a wad.
But, against these same players used in the slot? Or, if he is used in motion and moved out wide? He tears them a new a-hole. That is why many West Monroe fans were P.O. last year in the Central game going forward. The offense never gelled until late in the year and against Zachary last year he started off at QB. Zachary shut him and the running game down. They wised up and moved him to slot late in the 2nd quarter and he literally caught every ball and the TD if I remember correctly.
My top receivers on LSU board, if it were me, are in this order:
Marshall
Chase
Jason
Bolden
We need 4 receivers, period. But, we already have two in Jenkins and Jones. So, we take maybe 3 more at most.
Who you take off? And then we have out of state receivers still on the board.
Numbers game... I truly want him in a LSU uniform, but it isn't looking like it is going to happen. Sux a wad.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:40 pm to reo45
Bolden is really good, no doubt. There are alot like him out there though. He isn't that unique of a player other than being a white guy at a black dominated position. He's good not great.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 8:52 pm to Bayou
I actually agree with everything you said.
I don't disagree. But, there is no denying that when he was utilized out wide he absolutely was unstoppable last year. No one could defend him short or deep.
He has the skills to play in the SEC out wide. Will he be afforded this chance, alone (not as a running back too), by LSU?
Against those Big 12 defenses he will wreck their shiz everywhere. He knows it; I know it; You know it.
In the end it is about him being able to utilize his skill set in a conference and on a a squad that will showcase it.
If he were more of a Kamara type back who played at Tennessee I'd be more apt to see him in an LSU jersey, but he isn't that style player.
I don't disagree. But, there is no denying that when he was utilized out wide he absolutely was unstoppable last year. No one could defend him short or deep.
He has the skills to play in the SEC out wide. Will he be afforded this chance, alone (not as a running back too), by LSU?
Against those Big 12 defenses he will wreck their shiz everywhere. He knows it; I know it; You know it.
In the end it is about him being able to utilize his skill set in a conference and on a a squad that will showcase it.
If he were more of a Kamara type back who played at Tennessee I'd be more apt to see him in an LSU jersey, but he isn't that style player.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:08 pm to reo45
Trey Quinn ought to do well against those Big12 D's, too. I just don't think these guys are special in the SEC - good but not special
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:10 pm to reo45
Regardless if he is a white kid if giving a book of plays and good blocking he will survive anywhere. Its about heart at the end of the day.Him taking the risk to play football knowing he loves baseball probably more. Can only mean he is a natural born competitor. Cut on that St.Amant tape he killed them. Everyone has a helmet on who cares about if he is white. What does the film say. 
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:23 pm to Hunter318boy
quote:I happened to be looking TCU's run/pass ratio out of curiosity earlier today by chance. Their number of plays shocked me a little- 488 rushes (459, LSU) & 503 pass att (298, LSU). Noting TCU had 13 games & of course in the Bevo 12, it's still a hell of a differential. That's more plays (both rush and pass att) than TAMU and Ole Miss (acknowledging against weaker D's).
Bolden is a good player but he needs the ball to be effective.How many offensive plays do TCU have per game,and how many does Canada avg??
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:19 pm to arkytiger23
Total hijack but I'm -about 99% this dude is bugapaintrain 
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:07 am to reo45
quote:
reo45
quote:Just to be clear, I know you weren't and neither did I read it that way or I don't think anyone else was. Hope my post didn't read like I was saying you were... was definitely not my intention.
I wasn't knocking him at all.
quote:Agreed. That indeed is the crux of the matter. It's always a risk in recruiting that the kids you think you have are not going to materialize. If Staff thinks the WR slots are taken that's just how it goes in this game. Add to that Heath (flip, MSU), which I doubt seriously will happen, and it gets even tougher.
My top receivers on LSU board, if it were me, are in this order:
Marshall
Chase
Jason
Bolden
We need 4 receivers, period. But, we already have two in Jenkins and Jones. So, we take maybe 3 more at most.
Who you take off?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:58 am to BigEdLSU
He can't be arkytiger is humble and respectable which bugapaintrain was not lol.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 8:22 am to GeauxTigers9907
Trey Quinn 2.0
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:15 am to radicalizedtigah
Bolden has that it factor that guys like Ed McCaffrey showed.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:55 am to Bayou
quote:
Trey Quinn ought to do well against those Big12 D's, too. I just don't think these guys are special in the SEC - good but not special
Didn't Trey Quinn transfer to SMU? But if your point is he should have gone to a Big12 school straight out of high school; then, I agree. He would have had more chances to get quality playing time in a more pass happy offense that rotates receivers like Tech, Baylor, TCU, etc. Is new landing spot at SMU is actually a pretty good one in this area as well although the QB play may be more hit or miss.
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 9:57 am to TNTigerman
quote:
Trey Quinn 2.0
What point are you trying to make here?
Posted on 7/23/17 at 10:41 am to Byrdybyrd05
Haha well thank you But negative first profile
This post was edited on 7/23/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:19 pm to Hunter318boy
quote:
Nick Saban put LSU football on the map
And Jimbo Fisher was the OC...
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