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USA Today ranks QBs - Saints are 7th

Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:22 pm
Posted by JS87
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Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:22 pm
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Matt Ryan, Russell Wilson, and Derek Carr are ahead of Brees...

I think that has to do with three straight 7-9 seasons more than anything.

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1. New England Patriots: Go ahead — ding Tom Brady for his unspectacular arm strength, subpar athleticism or say he's profited from unprecedented coaching continuity and brilliance. But does a tenable argument that he's not the best in the business right now — and forevermore — honestly remain? Don't kid yourself. And after he played meaningful snaps effectively in 2016, Jimmy Garoppolo's presence makes any notion that another team has a better QB situation virtually indefensible.

2. Green Bay Packers: When it comes to pure arm talent, atomic clock accuracy, the ability to leverage mobility in or out of the pocket and execute at crunch time, is anyone better than two-time MVP and Hail Mary maestro Aaron Rodgers? He probably needs more rings to cement himself on the quarterbacking Mount Rushmore, but it can be argued no more physically talented passer has played the position. Watch Brett Hundley in preseason — he might be the kind talent the Packers can spin off for a high draft pick down the road.

3. Atlanta Falcons: Matt Ryan was dialed in from start to finish in 2016 — at least until the final quarter of that last game anyway. Still, the league MVP had one of the finest individual seasons of any quarterback in league history, taking a meteoric jump on his ninth year. The question now, was it an aberration, or can he keep it up?

4. Pittsburgh Steelers: Everything appears to be in place for Ben Roethlisberger to put together an MVP season ... assuming he doesn't miss four games with ... something. Landry Jones is the backup, but rookie Josh Dobbs could push him.

5. Seattle Seahawks: Statistically, 2016 was Russell Wilson's worst year, largely because he was fighting knee and ankle issues that limited his mobility behind a line that got him sacked 41 times. Still, for a guy who wasn't highly regarded entering the NFL five years ago, he's blossomed into one of its best passers. Wilson has a great arm, uses surreal escapability to sidestep rushers and extend plays rather than bail out of them, always keeps his eyes downfield and rarely makes a killer mistake.

6. Oakland Raiders: Derek Carr's steady, incremental improvement culminated last year with an MVP-caliber season highlighted by 28 TD passes against just six INTs. Now that he's averaging $25 million annually, that upward arc needs to continue.

7. New Orleans Saints: Drew Brees has thrown for 5,000 yards five times. The rest of the world has done it four times, and no one else has managed it twice. And even at 38, he shows little sign of slowing. Sure, the offense and playing indoors have helped him pile up huge numbers. But don't discredit Brees' body of work — it doesn't exist without his moxie, brilliance and precision, all despite a steady churn of players around him.
This post was edited on 7/18/17 at 12:25 pm
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:31 pm to
That's laughable.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12921 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:36 pm to
Look, Matt Ryan had a helluva year last year but I'd put it in this order:
1) Pats - Brady
2) Packers - Rodgers
3) Saints - Brees
4) Falcons - Ryan
5) Steelers - Roth
6) Raiders - Carr
7) Meh....
Posted by htran90
BC
Member since Dec 2012
30190 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:48 pm to
I don't understand the love for Roethlisberger > Brees, its been like this for the past 3 years or so:

2014:
Ben: 67.1%, 4952 yards, 8.14 YPA, 32 TDs, 9 INTs, 103.3 Rating
Brees: 69.2%, 4952 yards, 7.51 YPA, 33 TDs, 17 INTs, 97.0 Rating

2015:
Ben: 68.0%, 3938 yards, 8.4 YPA, 21 TDs, 16 INTs, 94.5 Rating - missed 4
Brees: 68.3%, 4870 yards, 7.77 YPA, 32 TDs, 11 INTs, 101. Rating - missed 1

2016:
Ben: 64.4%, 3819 yards, 7.5 YPA, 29 TDs, 13 INTs, 95.4 Rating - missed 2
Brees: 70.0%, 5208 yards, 7.74 YPA, 37 TDs, 15 INTs, 101.7 Rating

yeah okay.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68711 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 12:51 pm to
I suppose USA Today has never heard of regression to the mean. That's what Ryan is in for this year.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:01 pm to
I agree, Brees would probably be ranked higher had we achieved a better record but our defense has sucked bigly the last 3 years we're talking about QBs and Brees is out there setting records at the QB position. He plays the position as well or better than the top 3 guys on this ranking.

Also, what has Roethlisberger done to supplant Wilson? Wilson's one of the best and most efficient QBs to exist SMH
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158843 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 1:20 pm to
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but rookie Josh Dobbs could push him.



what a shite article
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Sure, the offense and playing indoors have helped him pile up huge numbers.


Tuned out:

Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8570 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 2:21 pm to
It is Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, and Luck in that order. Matt Ryan is a choke artist will always be. Russell Wilson is really good ,but not quite on that level yet same for Derek Carr.
Posted by UptownG504
Member since Jun 2017
318 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 6:11 pm to
Look at this guys tweets. He's not qualified to comment on sports much less rank QBs.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64679 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:27 pm to
Not Saints but Brees.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
66573 posts
Posted on 7/18/17 at 8:59 pm to
Lol
Posted by BengalShark
Member since Jul 2017
3243 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 11:39 am to
They can say whatever they want but Drew will lead the league in yards for the 4th straight year and he has led league in passing 7 out of the last 11 years, ESPN can say what they want but facts are facts
Posted by 3deadtrolls
lafayette
Member since Jan 2014
5801 posts
Posted on 7/19/17 at 8:31 pm to
I'll give you Brady, Rodgers, and maybe Wilson. But Derek Carr at #6 is laughable.
Posted by Patron Saint
Member since Jul 2013
4195 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 11:46 pm to
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Sure, the offense and playing indoors have helped him pile up huge numbers


Drew Brees is the quarterback of that offense. I'd say he's the one helping the offense, not the other way around.
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