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re: Alex Lange signs with Cubs for 1.925 million. Best of Luck!
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:16 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:16 pm to lsufball19
Yeah that's all correct, they don't get all the value back, only the compensatory pick value and that's not until following year, so there's definately wasted money/opportunity this year, a bad thing for a team wanting to win now.
And teams don't have all the leverage, but unfortunately they have most of it. The MLB players union generally has given in to owners over the draft because the drafted players are not yet union members. The union uses the draft to negotiate in other areas and it ends up hurting drafted players.
And teams don't have all the leverage, but unfortunately they have most of it. The MLB players union generally has given in to owners over the draft because the drafted players are not yet union members. The union uses the draft to negotiate in other areas and it ends up hurting drafted players.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 12:19 pm
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Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:18 pm to lsufball19
quote:Not this late.
Sounds like the Cubs are trying to sandbag him to save some money for other players they've drafted.
The MLB draft is so fricked up. It's the only draft where it doesn't really matter what round you get drafted so there are no trades ever, but they can't figure out dealing with the college baseball season.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:22 pm to ell_13
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It's the only draft where it doesn't really matter what round you get drafted so there are no trades ever, but they can't figure out dealing with the college baseball season.
at least they moved up the deadline a month instead of having it be in the middle of August. But I agree, the MLB draft is pretty ridiculous in how it's constructed
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:24 pm to ell_13
Cubs haven't signed Lange, 5th rounder or 6th rounder. Definitely trying to shuffle money around. Was report yesterday that 5th rounder signed but don't see it on the list yet.
They completely screwed their 9th and 10th rounders with 5 thousand dollar signing bonuses (yea they are seniors).
LINK
They completely screwed their 9th and 10th rounders with 5 thousand dollar signing bonuses (yea they are seniors).
LINK
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:29 pm to wfallstiger
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Interesting, would have thought such things would have been addressed before drafting a player
I think they can't examine players before the draft
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:31 pm to lsufball19
Assuming the new CBA didn't change this, the Cubs would get an additional pick next year immediately following the missed pick number. So if Lange was the 30th pick, the Cubs would be given the 31st pick in next year's draft as compensation.
The Astros received the 2nd overall pick the year after failing to sign Brady Aiken.
The Astros received the 2nd overall pick the year after failing to sign Brady Aiken.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:35 pm to davy jones
It's also worth noting that the issue with the physical doesn't have to mean an injury. Reports were that Brady Aiken had a abnormally small (but not injured) UCL that could increase the likelihood of a tear or reduce the probability of full return after a UCL repair. Also RA Dickey had his bonus reduced from something like $1 million to 75,000 when his physical revealed the absence of a UCL.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:35 pm to lsufball19
I did some more research. Cubs have about $372k to pay OVER slot before penalties kick in, and they still have Lange and a $222K slot 6th round guy unsigned in first 10 rounds. Again, that $372k is excess, so if 6th round guy signs for $244k instead of $222k, Cubs still have $350k over to stack on top of Lange's slot.
Picks after the 10th round have a cap on signing bonus, but teams may exceed that cap and it reduces the pool allocated to first 10 rounds, but the differences here are minimal impact usually (e.g. a team goes over $25k). It would take going over cap on a lot of guys to eat up the pool.
I do not know what happens if there is leftover pool money, if it can be used for other purposes (roll over, international, etc).
But in all this excess money is great news for Lange.
ETA: LINK
Picks after the 10th round have a cap on signing bonus, but teams may exceed that cap and it reduces the pool allocated to first 10 rounds, but the differences here are minimal impact usually (e.g. a team goes over $25k). It would take going over cap on a lot of guys to eat up the pool.
I do not know what happens if there is leftover pool money, if it can be used for other purposes (roll over, international, etc).
But in all this excess money is great news for Lange.
ETA: LINK
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:44 pm to tigerskin
It's happening 
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:48 pm to lsu711
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Screw the Cubs. Pay the guy his $2.2M. No one in that draft deserves it more than Alex.
Because LSU, right?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:50 pm to High C
Yeah, because LSU is the best.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:50 pm to BIWO
Doesn't PM have a close relationship to the Cubs?
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:52 pm to ell_13
He did, when Jim Hendry was the GM
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:53 pm to ell_13
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Doesn't PM have a close relationship to the Cubs?
Yeah. He's close with Jim Hendry and Randy Bush. At least one of them is still with the Cubs as far as I know.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 12:57 pm to ProjectP2294
Bush is assistant GM.
Anyone remember Grand Slam batting cages in Elmwood in 90s? That was his place.
Anyone remember Grand Slam batting cages in Elmwood in 90s? That was his place.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:05 pm to Parrish
Rumors he's coming back
Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:07 pm to Sev09
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Rumors he's coming back
Here we go. Tiger fans everywhere are getting texted that he's coming back.
I'm just throwing a little good natured jab.
This post was edited on 7/7/17 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:11 pm to Theboot32
Oh boy.
Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:21 pm to tigerskin
Do the cubs realize that they'll sell $2M in Lange jerseys to LSU fans overnight?
I know - exaggeration and he's not up yet. But still...
I know - exaggeration and he's not up yet. But still...
Posted on 7/7/17 at 1:27 pm to lsutigermall
Where is Brady Aiken now? Is he out of baseball?
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