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Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 6/17/17 at 3:57 pm to
Cuban would easily be my first choice, followed by Robert and Daymond

If I had some basic Bed Bath Beyond/Walmart type product that doesn't need any more developing or tweaking then it's Lori for sure

Kevin is simply too much of a numbers guy to help with developing or marketing imo. If financial advice was extremely important I would consider him

Barbara just sucks
Posted by Shotgun Willie
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 10:42 pm to
I know someone that was on the show and made a deal with Lori. They ended up getting out of the deal because Lori wouldn't help with anything.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 10:45 pm to
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I know someone that was on the show and made a deal with Lori. They ended up getting out of the deal because Lori wouldn't help with anything.


That tends to happen way more often than people think. Like maybe 1/5 of the deals. Tons of people come on just for the Shark Tank publicity with no aspirations for a shark to buy them out. It's just a glorified commercial for them.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 10:46 pm
Posted by DAbully
Syria
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 12:47 am to
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I know someone that was on the show and made a deal with Lori. They ended up getting out of the deal because Lori wouldn't help with anything.



This seems to happen a lot with them. It's 90% entertainment and 10% legitimate investments. Still enjoy it and and Mark FTW.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 1:08 am to
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I know someone that was on the show and made a deal with Lori. They ended up getting out of the deal because Lori wouldn't help with anything



What product?
Posted by VanRIch
Wherever
Member since Sep 2007
10519 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:05 am to
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She says ridiculous shite why she drops out of deals that make no fricking sense,

Wife and I were talking about this the other night.

Someone pitches a new workout business.

Barbara:"I've never had a cup of soup while in an international flight. So I'm out."
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20778 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:40 am to
Lori says some dumb shite too but she really pissed me off one episode a few years ago when one of the sharks (probably Cuban or Kevin) offered a deal and was like "I need an answer now". Lori interjects "wait but I haven't had my turn yet" and then keeps rambling on about the product and the business. While that was going on whoever it was Cuban or Kevin backed out because the entrepreneur was listening to Lori and then she ends up not making an offer at all. Just wanted to hear herself talk. Moron.

And Chris Sacca is the biggest a-hole on that show by miles
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101940 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 7:56 am to
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And Chris Sacca is the biggest a-hole on that show by miles



Agreed.


And yeah Barbara is pretty worthless unless it involves NYC real estate.


I'd work with Mark, Kevin, Robert, Daymon, or Lori, depending on the product. I think they all offer something different.
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 6/19/17 at 9:53 am to
I also think his arguments with Mark are producer generated, but Sacca is an arrogant a-hole.

I think Robert is my favorite shark. He just seems like he is a really genuine guy that actually cares. If you want a deal with him, just bring a dog onto your pitch and he will go bananas.

Mark would be great to work with too if it was a product that needed crazy marketing.

This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by vandelay industries
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Member since May 2012
2477 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:18 am to
From an entertainment standpoint, it's probably Mr. Wonderful or Mark. Although, sometimes Mark makes me cringe when he's overly dis-passionate about a product outside of his comfort zone, because he'll still make enough noise to scare away the other sharks.

Honestly, if I were on the show, I'd probably only take a deal that'd pay me a large enough sum to allow me to walk away from future responsibility...I can't imagine things working smoothly behind the scenes with any of 'em TBH, whether I was the legit "owner" of the product or not. Otherwise, I'd just use the show for PR purposes, like many have before...
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 10:20 am
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:20 am to
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Lori


You know she got a fat pussy.
Posted by DupontsCircle
Dupont Circle
Member since Jun 2016
5823 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:22 am to
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Mark cubans the guy whose opinion id respect the most and try to pair with if I had a project on thete



I think he has the most support infrastructure (i.e. personnel), but I promise you the facetime is likely limited to once every three to four months (basically when the checks show up). It seems to me you'd get more mentorship from the others.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67309 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:55 am to
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I'm just trying to think of anything that I would want Barbara as my first shark on.



Barbara is a wiz with real estate, which makes her ideal for franchising retail businesses.

Lori is the queen of QVC. She's great with anything that can be sold via infomercial and marketed towards women.

Cuban has the most resources, but the least time. Getting Cuban is the biggest possible get, but he's also very choosy. He is best for tech companies (similar to Robert) and also looks for anything that he can pair with his sports franchises to make money.

Mr. Wonderful specializes in commodities (bulk manufacturing), educational products, and seasonal/special occasion products (holidays, weddings, greeting cards, etc). With his background in offshore manufacturing, he is good at setting up distribution and likes to rely on royalty deals. Since he has so many existing businesses, he likes to find startups where he can take their proprietary technology and license it to improve his own companies. He is often the sleaziest though, as he backs out of more deals agreed to in the tank than any other shark. He also will attempt to steal any proprietary technology that isn't properly patent protected that comes into the tank which could help one of his companies. When he hits, he hits, but he's one that is difficult to deal with.

Daymond. He's a fashion, marketing, and offshore manufacturing/distribution. He often looks for products he can incorporate into FUBU, but rejects potential competition. He is great at setting up distribution deals, but is very picky, as he has the least resources to work with out of all the sharks. However, since he only takes companies he knows exactly how to build into a success, getting a deal with Daymond is almost a guaranteed success.

Robert loves everything. Robert specializes in tech, but he's also a big kid at heart. He wants to invest in everything. He is often a sucker for fun products that he could see himself or his kids enjoying. Since he has a ton of resources but often lacks the industry expertise of some of the other sharks, he likes to partner with other sharks.

Sacca is worthless. He rarely invests in anything and mostly just behaves like an instigator to rile up Mark the whole time. He's a tech app guy, but even in his own space, a dealer would be better off with Mark or Robert.

Best to worst is:
Mark
Lori
Daymond
Robert
Barbara
Mr. Wonderful
Sacca
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 11:04 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
84092 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:56 am to
Lori is the worst. Kevin is the best imo.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 10:57 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67309 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 10:59 am to
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They ended up getting out of the deal because Lori wouldn't help with anything.



Basically, all Lori will do is get them an infomercial slot with QVC and maybe help them get into some large big box stores. She expects those she deals with to take care of the rest. However, for those with a good product and good marketing skills, that's really all they need to break through.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 11:01 am
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19710 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:03 am to
A buddy of mine manages Barbara's investments/portfolio, he was actually on one of the episodes where they dig deeper into a specific company. CSB I know but Barbara definitely treats him well.

I would be interested in seeing some numbers on which companies have made the Sharks the most money. I think in one episode it was said that one of the cleaning products Lori got in with was the most successful in the shows history.
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3183 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:10 am to
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I think in one episode it was said that one of the cleaning products Lori got in with was the most successful in the shows history.

It's the Scrub Daddy. I own one. It's pretty neat.
Posted by SPEEDY
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83555 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:14 am to
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she really pissed me off one episode a few years ago when one of the sharks (probably Cuban or Kevin) offered a deal and was like "I need an answer now". Lori interjects "wait but I haven't had my turn yet" and then keeps rambling on about the product and the business. While that was going on whoever it was Cuban or Kevin backed out because the entrepreneur was listening to Lori and then she ends up not making an offer at all. Just wanted to hear herself talk. Moron.



I remember that episode. Was such a bullshite move on her part
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83555 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 11:20 am to
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I would be interested in seeing some numbers on which companies have made the Sharks the most money.



quote:

7. Wicked Good Cupcakes
The Product: Gourmet cupcakes in a jar shipped nationwide.
Shark that bit: Canadian investor and financial pundit

Kevin O’Leary, known as the tough shark ($75,000 for royalties and $1 per cupcake sold until he broke even, then $.50 per cupcake thereafter).
Sales: In 2016, the company had $8 million in sales since episode aired in season four.


6. Ten Thirty One Productions
The Product: Live-action horror entertainment company (think haunted house hay rides on steroids).
Sharks that bit: Mark Cuban ($2 million for a 20% stake).

Sales: Since Shark Tank, the company made $2 million, and revenues are expected to grow to $2-3 million in 2017.


5. Buggy Beds
The Product: An early detection and prevention system for bed bugs.
Sharks that bit: All five sharks bit. They are Kevin O’Leary, Robert Herjavec, Mark Cuban, Daymond John and real estate entrepreneur and investor Barbara Corcoran ($250,000 for 25%).

Sales: International growth across 23 countries with sales of more than $1.2 million after the Shark Tank pitch.


4. Groovebook
The Product: A subscription-based service that allows customers to receive a bound book of high-resolution photos taken from their smartphones.
Sharks that bit: Mark Cuban and Kevin O’Leary ($150,000 in exchange for 80% licensing profits).

Sales: A gain of 50,000 subscribers shortly after the pitch. Acquired by Shutterfly Inc. in 2014 for $14.5 million.


3. Tipsy Elves
The Product: Holiday-themed apparel.
Sharks that bit: Robert Herjavec ($100,000 for a 10% stake).

Sales: Tipsy Elves raked in $600,000 a year in sales before appearing on Shark Tank. In 2016, the company's revenue was projected to hit $8 million.


2. Squatty Potty
The Product: A personal care company best known for its toilet stool manufactured for easier bowel movements.
Sharks that bit: Kevin O’Leary and Lori Greiner ($350,000 for 10% equity).

Sales: Twenty-four hours after the deal, Squatty Potty saw $1 million in sales. Revenue rose to $19 million in 2015 and last year's sales were expected to top $30 million.


1. Scrub Daddy
The Product: A reusable super sponge in the shape of a smiling face that gets firm in cold water and soft in warm water. Scrub Daddy has also been lab tested to rinse clear of debris and resist odors for up to two months. The ergonomic shape is designed to clean both sides of kitchen utensils at once.
Sharks that bit: Lori Greiner ($200,000 for 20% equity).

Sales: Scrub Daddy has moved 10 million units for total sales of more than $50 million since the pitch. Before Shark Tank, the company had $100,000 in sales.



Honorable Mention: Copa Di Vino
The Product: A portfolio of seven different wines in a recycled glass-like container (patented) with a resealable, pull-off lid.
Sharks that bit: None. Despite two appearances on the show, a deal could not be reached with the sharks.

Sales: Copa Di Vina had sales of $500,000 before the pitch and $14 million in 2015.



Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75391 posts
Posted on 6/25/19 at 9:50 pm to
Why do you dislike Chris Sacca?
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