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People who graduated college around the Recession
Posted on 5/2/17 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 1:51 pm
There needs to be a study or article written about the mindset of those college students who graduated with run-of-the-mill average grades and degrees during the time period 2008-2012.
What would you say the findings would be?
I think that most of them, after getting that first or second job, are scared to leave it out of the fear of going through another job search. I would also think (mentioned in another thread) that this group of older Millennials saves more for retirement and is probably more frugal and less risky with investments.
I would be curious to see.
What would you say the findings would be?
I think that most of them, after getting that first or second job, are scared to leave it out of the fear of going through another job search. I would also think (mentioned in another thread) that this group of older Millennials saves more for retirement and is probably more frugal and less risky with investments.
I would be curious to see.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 1:54 pm to The Levee
I finished undergrad in 2011. Worked two menial jobs before a career-type job in my preferred field. I have been looking for another job that pays more and is not in BR, but it is more difficult than I thought. I've since earned my master's and have 4+ years of experience in my field and it's still tough. I finally got a call back about a job today after applying for about 30 or so.
I'm fortunate enough that I don't have any debt or student loans to pay back, but I still try to be relatively frugal. No wife and no kids, so it is a bit easier under those circumstances.
I'm fortunate enough that I don't have any debt or student loans to pay back, but I still try to be relatively frugal. No wife and no kids, so it is a bit easier under those circumstances.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 1:54 pm to The Levee
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I would also think (mentioned in another thread) that this group of older Millennials saves more for retirement and is probably more frugal and less risky with investments.
This. I know most of the guys I graduated with have little to no credit card debt and paid off beater cars. Nothing fancy, but they all have white collar jobs.
They'd rather be financially secure than have fancy toys and be financially overextended/leveraged.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 1:56 pm to NYNolaguy1
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They'd rather be financially secure than have fancy toys and be financially overextended/leveraged.
Yep. Hell yeah I'd like to have a boat and a four-wheeler and all sorts of toys, but I know better than to put myself in a bind. Those things will (hopefully) come later in life, but I get by for now with what I've got.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:00 pm to The Levee
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What would you say the findings would be?
I'm really not sure, but I graduated from my undergrad in 2010 and I've never been afraid to leave a job for greener pastures. I am relatively conservative in the fact that I did not take out student loans for my education or my wife's, but my investments are pretty risky.
All in all, I don't think it really had an effect on me.
ETA: I can add that I took a shite job (still related to my field) coming out of college, and worked through graduate school. I ended up with a good career job in late 2011.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:00 pm to The Levee
Graduated in '09. Started career in '10. Wife and I live pretty frugal. Only debt at this point is the mortgage. I can say that after 7+ years, I'm ready to move out of this current job. Like previously stated, there's not much available.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:01 pm to The Levee
I graduated EE in 2010. Had slightly below a 3.0 gpa and had a hard time finding a job.
I worked at wing stop and play n trade after I graduated for about 6 months.
I had to move out of state before I found a career instead of just a job. Finally found a job in Tennessee. I contribute a lot to my retirement accounts, but it's not due to fear of unemployment. It's because I want to retire early as possible.
I worked at wing stop and play n trade after I graduated for about 6 months.
I had to move out of state before I found a career instead of just a job. Finally found a job in Tennessee. I contribute a lot to my retirement accounts, but it's not due to fear of unemployment. It's because I want to retire early as possible.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:01 pm to The Levee
I graduated in 2010, had an oilfield job lined up since February with a ME degree.......then.......4/20/2010!!!!!! I'm supposed to walk across stage in a few weeks and I feel like I don't know what the hell is going to happen.
Luckily, my job wasn't revoked and I'm still trucking even after this latest recession in the oil industry.
I'd probably take another job in a heart beat, but no one is offering the money I make now.
I was frugal for a while. Now I have a safety net, much better salary, and a wife who's income isn't horrible. So I'm not as worried about pinching pennies. I'm set up to last a year probably if I get canned.
Luckily, my job wasn't revoked and I'm still trucking even after this latest recession in the oil industry.
I'd probably take another job in a heart beat, but no one is offering the money I make now.
I was frugal for a while. Now I have a safety net, much better salary, and a wife who's income isn't horrible. So I'm not as worried about pinching pennies. I'm set up to last a year probably if I get canned.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:02 pm to The Levee
I graduated undergrad in 2009 and had to take a job that only required a HS degree because it was such slim pickings (I'm actually still with the company and I've been promoted twice since).
A lot of my fellow graduates defaulted to random grad programs to avoid the slim pickings job market and graduated with a ton of extra student loan debt in a masters degree program they probably aren't even using. I think what held me back from going for my MBA was the fact that the market is SO saturated with them now, unless you're at a top 25 school I don't see it holding much more value than an undergrad degree.
A lot of my fellow graduates defaulted to random grad programs to avoid the slim pickings job market and graduated with a ton of extra student loan debt in a masters degree program they probably aren't even using. I think what held me back from going for my MBA was the fact that the market is SO saturated with them now, unless you're at a top 25 school I don't see it holding much more value than an undergrad degree.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:03 pm to The Levee
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There needs to be a study or article written about the mindset of those college students who graduated with run-of-the-mill average grades and degrees during the time period 2008-2012.
I graduated in 07 and fell into that category. I feel like i've done well for myself.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:05 pm to The Levee
I finished in 2010. My dad was an engineer and his dad was an engineer. I was basically raised with my dad telling my sister and me that we would be living in poverty if we didn't get a STEM degree. Recession or no recession, I was always going to go into one of the engineering disciplines.
I was fortunate in that I worked an internship while in school that led to a job offer with the same company (in a nearby city) upon graduation. There were people who graduated with me though who spent a year looking for an engineering firm to take them. The struggle was definitely real if you didn't know people.
I was fortunate in that I worked an internship while in school that led to a job offer with the same company (in a nearby city) upon graduation. There were people who graduated with me though who spent a year looking for an engineering firm to take them. The struggle was definitely real if you didn't know people.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:06 pm to Displaced
All in all I think the boomers poor financial planning for retirement is going to eff my generation who should be stepping in for their jobs. Not me, but in general.
There are plenty of outliers like teachers, where you are about to see a massive turnover from a whole generation retiring at their 30 years.
In general though, our generation,at be waiting on the boomers to die off rather than retire. Very grim. Sorry.
There are plenty of outliers like teachers, where you are about to see a massive turnover from a whole generation retiring at their 30 years.
In general though, our generation,at be waiting on the boomers to die off rather than retire. Very grim. Sorry.
This post was edited on 5/2/17 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:06 pm to The Levee
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I think that most of them, after getting that first or second job, are scared to leave it out of the fear of going through another job search. I would also think (mentioned in another thread) that this group of older Millennials saves more for retirement and is probably more frugal and less risky with investments.
This is pretty accurate for me. I graduated in 2008 and am on my second employer. I have no debt other than mortgage, sizable cash savings, and am risk averse with investments.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:07 pm to The Levee
I graduated in 2009, and I've only had two jobs (in my career) since then. And while I feel I've been blessed with the job I'm in now, I definitely don't know if I will be leaving my current company ever, unless something very drastic changes. I don't find the reward of a greener pasture to be worth the risk with my family and our financial obligations.
I have no idea if it has anything to do with graduating during a recession as much as the way I was raised. My dad has been in the same job with the same company for 30 years, paid off his house in 15, doesn't have any debt, even car notes. I don't know if I ever want to be that extreme because I watched the sacrifices he made, and I think there has got to be a balance. We rarely if ever even took vacations because he didn't believe in spending excessively. And the man has more money than probably most people I know, but you definitely wouldn't know by his lifestyle.
I have no idea if it has anything to do with graduating during a recession as much as the way I was raised. My dad has been in the same job with the same company for 30 years, paid off his house in 15, doesn't have any debt, even car notes. I don't know if I ever want to be that extreme because I watched the sacrifices he made, and I think there has got to be a balance. We rarely if ever even took vacations because he didn't believe in spending excessively. And the man has more money than probably most people I know, but you definitely wouldn't know by his lifestyle.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:08 pm to The Levee
CM grad of 10'. Didn't find a decent job for 2 years. Its been all uphill after, with lots of opportunities opening up in the Industrial field. Def learned how to save up when i was making $14 right out of college. This made me the overtime hog i am now.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:09 pm to MusclesofBrussels
And another angle would be "how successful and how many promotions would you have had without the recession?"
A lot of people are probably very content with job advancement or just employment.
A lot of people are probably very content with job advancement or just employment.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:10 pm to yessir
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Like previously stated, there's not much available.
I was very surprised at how hard it is even after being out of school for several years and having a decent amount of experience. But imagine how those graduating now must feel? We at least have a leg up on them. I went to career services at LSU awhile back and the lady told me they have tons and tons of recent graduates who are having zero luck.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:10 pm to The Levee
finished (no name state) school Dec 2010 with very average grades, took 6 months of call center BS to find a "real" job managing a call center for a top 5 bank.
since then I have gotten every job (2) I have interviewed for and have a superday with Goldman Sachs on Monday.
IF I land an offer I can see me being there quite some time. I have applied there 6 times including 3 during school.
I'm not afraid of job search mostly because I have networked well and have experience that is critical to financial services that a lot of people think is below them (collections).
I would urge student that IF they go to college, find something like engineering. BS in Business, communications, sociology is pretty worthless IMO.
since then I have gotten every job (2) I have interviewed for and have a superday with Goldman Sachs on Monday.
IF I land an offer I can see me being there quite some time. I have applied there 6 times including 3 during school.
I'm not afraid of job search mostly because I have networked well and have experience that is critical to financial services that a lot of people think is below them (collections).
I would urge student that IF they go to college, find something like engineering. BS in Business, communications, sociology is pretty worthless IMO.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:11 pm to The Levee
quote:that must have really sucked. the job market isn't great now so it must have been much worse back then.
There needs to be a study or article written about the mindset of those college students who graduated with run-of-the-mill average grades and degrees during the time period 2008-2012.
Posted on 5/2/17 at 2:14 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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that must have really sucked. the job market isn't great now so it must have been much worse back then.
Ramen Noodles and Tostinos pizza twice a day was a reality. People talk about being that poor, but it really was true and it sucked.
And nobody was willing to help because everyone was hurting...rightfully so.
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