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Another massive lie we've been fed about nutrition-Excess salt intake causes heart disease
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:32 pm
More and more people are finally discovering that sugar is the real culprit behind the obesity and diabetes epidemic in America, as opposed to fat as we were told for decades. But very few people are aware how little evidence there is of a connection between salt and hypertension, and the related heart diseases.
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This article is from 2011, and rumblings about this have been ongoing for decades. Yet for some reason this data never reaches the masses.
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This week a meta-analysis of seven studies involving a total of 6,250 subjects in the American Journal of Hypertension found no strong evidence that cutting salt intake reduces the risk for heart attacks, strokes or death in people with normal or high blood pressure. In May European researchers publishing in the Journal of the American Medical Association reported that the less sodium that study subjects excreted in their urine—an excellent measure of prior consumption—the greater their risk was of dying from heart disease.
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Dahl also discovered population trends that continue to be cited as strong evidence of a link between salt intake and high blood pressure. People living in countries with a high salt consumption—such as Japan—also tend to have high blood pressure and more strokes. But as a paper pointed out several years later in the American Journal of Hypertension, scientists had little luck finding such associations when they compared sodium intakes within populations, which suggested that genetics or other cultural factors might be the culprit. Nevertheless, in 1977 the U.S. Senate’s Select Committee on Nutrition and Human Needs released a report recommending that Americans cut their salt intake by 50 to 85 percent, based largely on Dahl's work.
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Intersalt, a large study published in 1988, compared sodium intake with blood pressure in subjects from 52 international research centers and found no relationship between sodium intake and the prevalence of hypertension. In fact, the population that ate the most salt, about 14 grams a day, had a lower median blood pressure than the population that ate the least, about 7.2 grams a day
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One oft-cited 1987 study published in the Journal of Chronic Diseases reported that the number of people who experience drops in blood pressure after eating high-salt diets almost equals the number who experience blood pressure spikes; many stay exactly the same. That is because "the human kidney is made, by design, to vary the accretion of salt based on the amount you take in,"
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This article is from 2011, and rumblings about this have been ongoing for decades. Yet for some reason this data never reaches the masses.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:34 pm to Grim
I love to put salt on ice and eat it
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:34 pm to Grim
Well, my cardeologist told me to limit my sodium to less than 2,000 mg per day. Think I'll trust his word over your link.
Thanks anyway.
Thanks anyway.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:34 pm to Grim
All that it takes to have a healthy diet is to cook your own food.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:35 pm to Grim
It is not so much sugar as it is glucose. We consume too many carbs and and don't burn off enough glucose daily
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:35 pm to The Torch
I saw a guy putting salt on a slaw dog at a BBQ joint the other day. I just him.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:36 pm to MontyFranklyn
You could salt your food as much as you want, it's processed food that gets you. All that sodium and added sugar is terrible for you.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:37 pm to Grim
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:38 pm to Grim
The massive lie here is that every person's body processes salt exactly the same. Some people can tolerate high sodium diets and some can't.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:38 pm to Grim
I have never heard that excess salt causes heart disease.
I have heard many, many times that excess salt can cause high blood pressure. It can. That is basic science. Ion transport/membrane science, etc.
I have heard many, many times that excess salt can cause high blood pressure. It can. That is basic science. Ion transport/membrane science, etc.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:38 pm to lsu480
the people in the industry who are worth a F have been saying this for years
unless you have a certain condition or are sodium sensitive, it makes no difference.
unless you have a certain condition or are sodium sensitive, it makes no difference.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:41 pm to HempHead
Generally speaking there is almost 0 evidence that salt actually causes any issues. Salt is one of your 5 tastes, its actually incredibly necessary.
BUT, salt has been proven to be bad for you in high amounts once you already have issues like heart disease.
So again, its not proven to cause anything but is proven to make things worse.
BUT, salt has been proven to be bad for you in high amounts once you already have issues like heart disease.
So again, its not proven to cause anything but is proven to make things worse.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:43 pm to Grim
frick yea
Salted caramel ice cream, here I come
Salted caramel ice cream, here I come
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:45 pm to baldona
My cardiologist told me a healthy adult should consume 2,500 mg of sodium per day. He wants me to stay around 2,000 mg per day. But the average Alabaman takes in over 9,000 mg per day.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:45 pm to heatom2
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You could salt your food as much as you want, it's processed food that gets you. All that sodium and added sugar is terrible for you.
Exactly. You ever seen the average home cook.. cook? They don't salt their food nearly enough for that to be the culprit.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:46 pm to heatom2
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You could salt your food as much as you want, it's processed foods that gets you
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that sodium is terrible for you.
Baw....
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:46 pm to Darth_Vader
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Well, my cardeologist told me to limit my sodium to less than 2,000 mg per day. Think I'll trust his word over your link.
The number of medical specialist that have not read a medical journal since they left residency would shock you, or as a doctor told me, "I don't care what the studies say, this is what I believe." after which I found a new doctor.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:46 pm to Darth_Vader
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But the average Alabaman takes in over 9,000 mg per day.
Mother of God
Posted on 4/12/17 at 2:48 pm to EA6B
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The number of medical specialist that have not read a medical journal since they left residency would shock you, or as a doctor told me, "I don't care what the studies say, this is what I believe." after which I found a new doctor.
I love this place. Where else can you go and find frickers who think they know more than World-class doctors.
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