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I'm not blaming the refs, but this egregious miss killed the chance for exciting ending

Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:50 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69377 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:50 pm


That's a missed call. He was touching the ball, hand out of bounds. Gonzaga ball, period.

Might not have changed outcome, would have changed ending sequence.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85138 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

That's a missed call. He was touching the ball, hand out of bounds. Gonzaga ball, period.


It is impossible to miss unless you did so intentionally. No other way to spin it.

ETA: What could that ref possibly be watching where he missed that hand? He was the one who called the tie-up, so how did he miss the hand right there?
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 11:02 pm
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36711 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:51 pm to
That's an exceptionally egregious missed call.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38137 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:52 pm to
Glad my team won. But that was the worst officiated game I can remember.
Posted by SlowEasyConfident
Member since Nov 2015
6650 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:53 pm to
It wouldn't have mattered if karnowski could make a layup. Gonzaga has no one to blame but themselves
Posted by tWildcat
Verona, KY
Member since Oct 2014
19365 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:53 pm to
UNC benefited from calls all tourney so it doesn't surprise me that the official didn't call that. With that said, Gonzaga had so many chances and just decided they didn't want to win.
Posted by hiltacular
NYC
Member since Jan 2011
19690 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:54 pm to
It was a terrible game. I can only hope that it was bad enough where actual legit changes will be made going forward.

I wouldn't hate seeing the games structured similarly to what they did in the NIT this year. They also desperately need to clean up loose ball / off ball fouls. Let them play.
Posted by Mouthulcer
Metairie
Member since Feb 2015
639 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
Is he grabbing his dick?
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2040 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
Given the rest of the contest, I'm pretty confident that the ending was going to suck either way.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
45072 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 10:55 pm to
What about the phantom tip call on the air ball The zags shot? The one that they ended up getting a 3 on?

The refs sucked overall. Get over it
Posted by RocketPower13
Member since Jan 2017
2482 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:07 pm to
I don't blame refs for split second calls like that TBH. I did feel like the odd nature they called fouls led to Gonzaga big men being in foul trouble very early, but the pace of the game was set because when Gonzaga was playing it's best their momentum was halted by somewhat obscure foul calls in an inconsistently called game.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
82271 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:16 pm to
The refs were awful and deserve a ton of blame
This post was edited on 4/3/17 at 11:17 pm
Posted by EastBankTiger
A little west of Hoover Dam
Member since Dec 2003
21352 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:20 pm to
In fairness to that ref, he was a full 5-10 feet away...and his service dog wasn't handy.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67021 posts
Posted on 4/3/17 at 11:38 pm to
The refs were terrible; Gonzaga played like pure shite to open the 2nd half; UNC couldn't throw it in the ocean until late in the game and finally played good D in the 2nd half.

It was a shitty game to watch with no flow especially when the refs got whistle happy in the early to mid part of the 2nd half. It was just a disjointed game all around. It was entertaining for the last 5 until the last 11 seconds. It was college basketball ball played by two teams with no transcendent talent.
Posted by herbstreit4
Buckeye Lake
Member since Dec 2007
1710 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 6:40 am to
quote:

That's a missed call. He was touching the ball, hand out of bounds. Gonzaga ball, period.


You can't even see the ball in that picture so how in the hell can you say he was touching it at that point?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21497 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:37 am to
Refs always determine winners in basketball, always.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:04 am to
These refs shouldn't be refs at all.

quote:

There were four fouls called in the the first 78 seconds of the second half, nine fouls by the first TV timeout, 16 by the second and 22 at the third

LINK
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
40859 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:06 am to
What about the airball, that gonzaga got back because they said UNC tipped it out of bounds? They got the ball back, made a 3 and took lead. What about that shite call?
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
22701 posts
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:17 am to
I didn't give a shite who won, but that was a horrendous game to watch. I've watched horrible officiating all year in Auburn games. This again reminded of why CBB sucks compared to the NBA.
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 9:18 am
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