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re: Moving the BR Zoo
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:42 pm to Mung
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:42 pm to Mung
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but is it worth spending $26 million to build it down there?
What are you talking about, 26 million dollars???
No way, this is BR, we have money to burn and 26 million doesn't buy what it use to buy.
We're thinking 110 million buddy, and that's 110 million American dollars.
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:44 pm to tom
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BREC has a $96 million annual budget. Shouldn't be too difficult to set aside $26 million over a few years.
Only thing is they plan on building a 110 million dollar zoo. And you know how plans work out 110 million usually becomes 150 million.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:46 pm to Amblin
1. Impetus for a new zoo started with a federal rule mandating new requirements for elephant exhibits in order to aquite new elephants. First, you could have no fewer than 2 elephants (BR had 2 at the time). Second, in order to get more elephants, they would have to build an entirely new habitat because the current one isn't up to code. Then, their aging elephant died, meaning they had to give up their other elephant.
2. BR zoo started studying the costs associated with building a new elephant habitat at the existing zoo and found that the costs of doing so were not that much less than building a new zoo.
3. They started looking for locations closer to their main customers, school groups from LP and AP, and parents from SBR. A new zoo would have expanded classrooms to accomidate more school groups at a time.
4. NIMBY's around city park opposed replacing the unprofitable golf course with a new zoo and the SJW's screamed racism despite the fact that the zip code where the zoo resides patronizes it less than EVERY OTHER ZIPCODE IN THE REGION!
I think it either needs to be off 30 by the Vet School, close enough to LSU to walk from the tram; or it needs to be at City Park. The zoo is currently in a terrible location, but it does have plenty of room to expand there.
2. BR zoo started studying the costs associated with building a new elephant habitat at the existing zoo and found that the costs of doing so were not that much less than building a new zoo.
3. They started looking for locations closer to their main customers, school groups from LP and AP, and parents from SBR. A new zoo would have expanded classrooms to accomidate more school groups at a time.
4. NIMBY's around city park opposed replacing the unprofitable golf course with a new zoo and the SJW's screamed racism despite the fact that the zip code where the zoo resides patronizes it less than EVERY OTHER ZIPCODE IN THE REGION!
I think it either needs to be off 30 by the Vet School, close enough to LSU to walk from the tram; or it needs to be at City Park. The zoo is currently in a terrible location, but it does have plenty of room to expand there.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:47 pm to kingbob
You guys are smoking crack rocks if you think the zoo is moving to the future city of St. George.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:51 pm to doubleb
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110 million American dollars.
Wow! I love BREC, but...
You better believe there will be a fight over a move. Maybe if they made a giant free or close to free waterpark in the current zoo location, it would sell.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 12:52 pm to Solo
The reality is that the zoo competes with the Audubon Zoo for school field trip groups, it will be almost as expensive to get it up to par to get its elephants back than it will be to build a new location that meets the requirements, that the neighborhood where it is currently located is only about 10-20 minutes closer to AP schools than Audubon, it is inconveniently located away from hotels, the vet school, and the interstate, and the neighborhood around it doesn't patronize it.
If the right location can be found, it would make financial sense to move it.
I like City Park because it's:
Close to the vet school
Adjacent to the art museum and the new children's museum
Easy interstate access
Close tothe lakes and LSU
The only issues there were a potential lack of room for parking, and neighborhood people who didn't want to close their golf course which they don't use.
If the right location can be found, it would make financial sense to move it.
I like City Park because it's:
Close to the vet school
Adjacent to the art museum and the new children's museum
Easy interstate access
Close tothe lakes and LSU
The only issues there were a potential lack of room for parking, and neighborhood people who didn't want to close their golf course which they don't use.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:00 pm to kingbob
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it will be almost as expensive to get it up to par to get its elephants back than it will be to build a new location that meets the requirements
Link to these costs?
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Close to the vet school
Why does this matter?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:05 pm to kingbob
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2. BR zoo started studying the costs associated with building a new elephant habitat at the existing zoo and found that the costs of doing so were not that much less than building a new zoo.
Sorry, I'm not buying this one.
How could it cost nearly 110 million dollars for a new elephant habitat at the existing zoo, and 110 million dollars for a whole new zoo. It does not compute.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:06 pm to kingbob
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I like City Park because it's:
....the most obvious choice
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:11 pm to doubleb
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The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People also has vowed to fight any attempts to relocate the zoo.
WTF
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:20 pm to kingbob
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The zoo is currently in a terrible location, but it does have plenty of room to expand there.
The zoo has had a lot of updates over the years. I actually think it is overall in good shape, and on par with comparable Zoo's of its size. There are only a handful of current exhibits, like the fish house and pygmy hippo enclosure, that need overhauls.
The BR Zoo doesn't need to compete with the Audubon Zoo. However, I think it presents a nice opportunity to be a teaching resource for the Vet School and can provide research opportunities for scientists at both LSU and Southern.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:22 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
The zoo is in an all black neighborhood. Therefore, any attempts to move the zoo to a mixed neighborhood is racist. This argument would hold more weight if that neighborhood patronized the zoo, but they don't.
What this is really all about are some BREC decisions to either close or not renovate a series of pools and basketball courts in NBR. This is revenge.
What this is really all about are some BREC decisions to either close or not renovate a series of pools and basketball courts in NBR. This is revenge.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:30 pm to kingbob
Seriously.. who has their wedding at a Zoo?
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:30 pm to Deactived
The vet school has the equipment to operate on large animals when they are sick or injured. The zoo uses the MRI machine at the vet school.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:33 pm to tom
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BREC taxes are property taxes. NBR is paying much, much less already.
In BREC terms Zachary and Central are NBR. I know people there that pay a good bit to BREC.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:33 pm to kingbob
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The zoo is in an all black neighborhood. Therefore, any attempts to move the zoo to a mixed neighborhood is racist. This argument would hold more weight if that neighborhood patronized the zoo, but they don't. What this is really all about are some BREC decisions to either close or not renovate a series of pools and basketball courts in NBR. This is revenge.
This shouldn't be about race. It should be is BREC doing what's best for the community with my tax dollars?
We need a new elephant exhibit so we pivot to building a whole new zoo??? That makes no sense.
They floated a couple of new locations and each is almost outside of EBR Parish. The Fairgrounds site is on the border of Ascension, and it flooded, and the Nicholson/Bluebonnet site is almost in Iberville Parish.
The zoo is in Baker right now. It's not the best place, but unless someone shows me we need a whole new zoo and the one we have now can't be upgraded for a lot less than a whole new zoo would cost; I'm saying no to spending 110 million dollars and it has nothing to do with race.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:35 pm to doubleb
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Sorry, I'm not buying this one.
How could it cost nearly 110 million dollars for a new elephant habitat at the existing zoo, and 110 million dollars for a whole new zoo. It does not compute
Don't buy it because the statement he made is bullshite.
A new zoo costs the same as renovating the existing elephant enclosure. Lol.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:37 pm to SabiDojo
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I've never been to the BR Zoo, but I imagine it's a lot like the Jackson Zoo. The Jackson Zoo is in the middle of the ghetto of West Jackson. You basically keep the animals in the cages to protect them from the public. I think some stray dogs got in there once and started killing animals. It needs to be moved but they are so broke.
Sounds just like the Monroe zoo. Some assholes let their pit bulls loose in there one night and they killed several animals a few years ago.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:38 pm to doubleb
The zoo has two physical problems: it needs a new elephant exhibit and more classroom space. To accommodate such on the exhisting site would take a massively expensive reconfiguring.
The zoo has two other issues:
It's far from the interstate, and it's far from its customer base.
I can't find the study, but I believe the renovations were going to cost $80 million while a new zoo would cost $110 million.
The reason those sites were chosen is because they are undeveloped tracts BREC already owns.
The zoo has two other issues:
It's far from the interstate, and it's far from its customer base.
I can't find the study, but I believe the renovations were going to cost $80 million while a new zoo would cost $110 million.
The reason those sites were chosen is because they are undeveloped tracts BREC already owns.
Posted on 3/30/17 at 1:42 pm to brmark70816
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I have never heard of someone having a wedding at the zoo..
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Beaumont, TX
Ok, I was about to ask what rock you live under. I've attended two wedding at Audubon in just the last 6 months.
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