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re: What's easier - repairing Obamacare or Repealing and Replacing?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:54 am to redfishfan
Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:54 am to redfishfan
I actually trust the government a lot more than a public company with minimal regulations (as conservatives would prefer) to make decisions about whether to cover me.
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Posted on 3/27/17 at 11:59 am to Tigerdev
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I actually trust the government a lot more than a public company with minimal regulations (as conservatives would prefer) to make decisions about whether to cover me.
I don't trust the government at all. They've failed us over and over again. I don't trust corporations either. I trust myself to make decisions that are best for my family.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:15 pm to redfishfan
quote:This isn't really the issue though. If the insurance company won't carry you, your wife, or one of your children because of a pre-existing condition I don't see how that would be best for your family. Some regulation is good.
I trust myself to make decisions that are best for my family.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:16 pm to Tigerdev
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Some regulation is good.
I agree but most regulation is killing businesses.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:21 pm to redfishfan
I can agree. The best way forward is a bipartisan panel to bring in industry leaders, providers, customers, etc and assess what is working and what is not. Craft appropriate amendments to ACA and boom
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:22 pm to Tigerdev
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Craft appropriate amendments to ACA and boom
What could save us billions on all levels would be to get control of illegal immigration. If you are gonna have a welfare state you can't just let people end to suck it dry. I'd be willing to keep the ACA if we took care of immigration and only allowed US citizens to receive subsidized care.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:22 pm to SUB
quote:It cannot be fixed.
Dems are saying that they are open to "fixing" Obamacare.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:23 pm to SUB
Full repeal. Get gov TFO of healthcare.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:26 pm to redfishfan
quote:This seems very reasonable to me...The only counter-point is that if uninsured legal immigrants show up to ER will it burden the system more or less? I don't know the answer.
only allowed US citizens to receive subsidized care
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:29 pm to Tigerdev
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This seems very reasonable to me...The only counter-point is that if uninsured legal immigrants show up to ER will it burden the system more or less? I don't know the answer.
Probably more and that's why we need to get this crap under control. Give them a 3 years to get out or they will be removed. Simple as that. Have a process in place during that three years to help them get work visas or whatnot. Heavy fines for anybody hiring illegals during that three year period.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:29 pm to redfishfan
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The Dems didn't give a shite about the GOP with that bill.
The same cycle that has gone on my entire lifetime. At some point this bullshite mentality has to end. Moderate Republicans and Democrats should get together and tell Pelosi, Schumer, and the tea party to go to hell.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:32 pm to redfishfan
Seems reasonable but both issues need bi-partisan legislation to truly work. We can't have a situation where we spend all of our time undermining the party in power...and the party in power tries to stick their middle finger as far up the opposition party's arse as they can...
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:33 pm to fooz
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Full repeal. Get gov TFO of healthcare.
Before Obama care, who the frick do you think paid for it when poor people showed up at the ER as their first response when needing a doctor?
Who the frick was likely paying for your retired relatives' health care?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:34 pm to Tigerdev
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Seems reasonable but both issues need bi-partisan legislation to truly work. We can't have a situation where we spend all of our time undermining the party in power...and the party in power tries to stick their middle finger as far up the opposition party's arse as they can...
This is why we need a rise of another party or two. This two party system is failing us miserably. It's sport team politics. It's not about what's best for America and it's people.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:34 pm to SUB
Repeal
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:36 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:We did. There's this thing called family you might have heard of
Who the frick was likely paying for your retired relatives' health care?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:37 pm to SUB
The Ryan bill could essentially he defined as a "fix", but it was technically a repeal and replace. It's all semantics with this stuff.
You can't really do clean repeal because Obamacare put millions more americans on the dole and they would lose coverage. Politically, that's a loser.
You have to do a repeal and replace bill, imo. And they need to get it done by summer.
You can't really do clean repeal because Obamacare put millions more americans on the dole and they would lose coverage. Politically, that's a loser.
You have to do a repeal and replace bill, imo. And they need to get it done by summer.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:38 pm to SUB
I don't believe the people on this board know much about the laws that pertain to medical insurance and medicine. I don't
Sanjay Gupta said it would be easier to repair, but for the GOP to win in politics R&R.
Sanjay Gupta said it would be easier to repair, but for the GOP to win in politics R&R.
This post was edited on 3/27/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:44 pm to SUB
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If the end product is the same, shouldn't the method of getting there be the path of least resistance, one that takes the least amount of time, and uses the least amount of taxpayer dollars?
Dems are saying that they are open to "fixing" Obamacare. Why does everyone get so caught up in semantics and just find common ground / compromise to something that will pass a vote? Are Dems so caught up in keeping the name and legacy of Obamacare that they don't want it repealed? Are republicans so caught up in getting rid of the name "Obamacare" and putting something into place that they can claim as their own?
The truth is Congress can do whatever they want with the ACA and it isn't going to reduce the cost of healthcare one bit. The ACA "reducing " the cost of healthcare , is nothing more than robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Maybe we could try you know actually addressing the costs of healthcare, not just insurance, this time around?
Posted on 3/27/17 at 12:48 pm to SUB
Doesn't matter. The God Emperor is so feckless he can't even ram legislation through with a GOP Congress
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