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Why do they not call traveling in basketball anymore?
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:36 pm
I was taught that on a drive or a layup, you get two steps. You stop your dribble, you have to keep your pivot foot stationary.
Now, they're basically allowed to drive from the top of the key without dribbling or allowed a hop, skip, and a jump to the basket. My main beef is the THREE steps they're allowed after stopping the dribble. Is it just because I'm old and I "don't get it?" Or why would they let the game slowly grow into changing the traveling rule altogether?
Main reason I haven't watched hardly ANY basketball in the last few years.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted to hell, but it's a legit question.
Now, they're basically allowed to drive from the top of the key without dribbling or allowed a hop, skip, and a jump to the basket. My main beef is the THREE steps they're allowed after stopping the dribble. Is it just because I'm old and I "don't get it?" Or why would they let the game slowly grow into changing the traveling rule altogether?
Main reason I haven't watched hardly ANY basketball in the last few years.
I'm sure I'll get downvoted to hell, but it's a legit question.
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Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:38 pm to Prominentwon
They do. Plenty.
Not really
Allow me to be the first
quote:
it's a legit question.
Not really
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I'm sure I'll get downvoted to hell
Allow me to be the first
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:44 pm to Prominentwon
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:44 pm to Prominentwon
Question reminds me of the Greek dude going full court with one dribble.
Look...NBA threw traveling out with Jordan.
Used to be you got two steps...because that was the natural rhythm after picking up the basketball...if you took more, you were cheating the sport...
...then you soon got 3 steps and 4 steps if there was a hop involved.
NBA sold its soul in the 80's - it wanted fans...the league was dead in the 70's.
It went playground...encouraged rec-league rules to their refs...let everyone get away with non-traditional rules...so it could be high-flying and slam-dunk Jordan hysteria.
Under traditional basketball rules - you wouldn't get "NBA Jams VHS, circa 1988."
Look...NBA threw traveling out with Jordan.
Used to be you got two steps...because that was the natural rhythm after picking up the basketball...if you took more, you were cheating the sport...
...then you soon got 3 steps and 4 steps if there was a hop involved.
NBA sold its soul in the 80's - it wanted fans...the league was dead in the 70's.
It went playground...encouraged rec-league rules to their refs...let everyone get away with non-traditional rules...so it could be high-flying and slam-dunk Jordan hysteria.
Under traditional basketball rules - you wouldn't get "NBA Jams VHS, circa 1988."
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:44 pm to Prominentwon
See post directly above you
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:45 pm to Prominentwon
It gets called a lot, actually. They are pretty lenient with it, but egregious extra steps or moving of the pivot foot almost always get the call.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 4:58 pm to Prominentwon
And the biggest traveling violation that happens in every NBA game is the pivot foot.
Nobody cares...everyone moves it, slides it, switches it, hops it...changes it.
It's a joke. Refs don't care. Stern wanted this. He didn't want traditional real basketball rules on a Pro level.
He wanted excitement...and pizzazz...you can't get to Jordan with traditional real basketball rules. You have to let that mustang run free.
He changed the sport in the 80's - Stern...and there were tons of articles about it...look it up...people complained...he wanted it all run and jump sport by eliminating traveling, and pivots and showing control of the ball.
That's what viewers wanted and he won.
Nobody cares...everyone moves it, slides it, switches it, hops it...changes it.
It's a joke. Refs don't care. Stern wanted this. He didn't want traditional real basketball rules on a Pro level.
He wanted excitement...and pizzazz...you can't get to Jordan with traditional real basketball rules. You have to let that mustang run free.
He changed the sport in the 80's - Stern...and there were tons of articles about it...look it up...people complained...he wanted it all run and jump sport by eliminating traveling, and pivots and showing control of the ball.
That's what viewers wanted and he won.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:00 pm to Prominentwon
Because you're old.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:08 pm to Prominentwon
Most sports have rigged their rule books and officiating over the years to promote and favor the offense because that's supposedly more exciting.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:13 pm to Prominentwon
It has always been bad in the NBA, but its creeping into college now too unfortunately
I watched the NCAA tourney first couple of days from a hotel room last week and I am sure the housekeepers thought I was a travel agent with how many times I screamed out TRAVEL!!!
I watched the NCAA tourney first couple of days from a hotel room last week and I am sure the housekeepers thought I was a travel agent with how many times I screamed out TRAVEL!!!
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:16 pm to Prominentwon
When you shoot or pass, you get to jump off the pivot foot.
If you dribble, you cannot lift the pivot.
What athletes are doing is using a one foot jump stop. That is how they do some of this legally. Good footwork like McHale had can look like a travel, but it is not.
I agree they do miss some 5 step travels.
If you dribble, you cannot lift the pivot.
What athletes are doing is using a one foot jump stop. That is how they do some of this legally. Good footwork like McHale had can look like a travel, but it is not.
I agree they do miss some 5 step travels.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 5:49 pm to Prominentwon
This thread raises an important point.
If you had to play by the rules back in the day...like real basketball...what is your legacy?
But then you didn't...have to play by the rules? Why should you be rewarded in history? When you had it so much easier?
And you could just run to the basket like Usain Bolt or Lebron James...
How much should that affect your legacy? Will historians recognize how the game changed for TV?
Considering the advantage modern players get. Like, the rules of basketball don't matter anymore. It's all just entertainment.
If you had to play by the rules back in the day...like real basketball...what is your legacy?
But then you didn't...have to play by the rules? Why should you be rewarded in history? When you had it so much easier?
And you could just run to the basket like Usain Bolt or Lebron James...
How much should that affect your legacy? Will historians recognize how the game changed for TV?
Considering the advantage modern players get. Like, the rules of basketball don't matter anymore. It's all just entertainment.
This post was edited on 3/26/17 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:18 pm to Prominentwon
Dr J and MJ sold a lot of clothes.
refs let them walk.
its awful.
They also allow palming.
Magic Johnson palmed the ball so little guys could not steal him blind.
refs ruined the game.
baseball is about the same, because umps invented a bs strike zone which eliminated the high hard one and now you can't throw it 4 inches above the belt right down the middle, or its a ball.
Alas. refs suck. walking. carrying.
refs let them walk.
its awful.
They also allow palming.
Magic Johnson palmed the ball so little guys could not steal him blind.
refs ruined the game.
baseball is about the same, because umps invented a bs strike zone which eliminated the high hard one and now you can't throw it 4 inches above the belt right down the middle, or its a ball.
Alas. refs suck. walking. carrying.
Posted on 3/26/17 at 6:34 pm to Prominentwon
They've called a ton of traveling in this tourney
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:04 pm to Prominentwon
quote:
Why do they not call traveling in basketball anymore?
That would be "triggering" to today's student(-athlete)s.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 1:32 am to Prominentwon
NBA, stars are allowed to get away with anything.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 2:03 am to Prominentwon
#ThingsWhitePeopleSay
Posted on 3/27/17 at 7:54 am to Prominentwon
LeBron never dribbles inside the three point line. He runs with the ball more than Ezekiel Elliott.
Posted on 3/27/17 at 9:33 am to Prominentwon
In the pros and the NCAA tourney you get unlimited steps it appears.
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