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re: Iberville the most logical place for new Mississippi River bridge per study

Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:47 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:47 am to
We've known this for 20 goddamn years. Maybe we should study it a dozen more times to confirm it.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 11:52 am to
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A new i10 bridge connecting chalmette to hwy 90 and turning into i49 needs to happen first

I see someone had a heroin relapse
Posted by ruger35
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:03 pm to
HWY 30 was already scheduled to be expanded near I-10 in Geismar. One of the quickest options that would still use existing roads (while waiting for a doubtful loop to be built) would be to put a bridge crossing from White Castle/Bayou Goula to HWY 30. Easy access back to the interstate and decide from there where you want to go.

After the flood I had to move back to Plaquemine, and I am now using the darn ferry twice a day. 430 a.m. and 345 in the evening. Having two ferries works wonders or I would just take the Sunshine Bridge everyday.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:19 pm to
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quote:
Chalmette >>> Plaquemine


they both suck arse
BigBerg will fist fight you Baw
Posted by BigD13
French Settlement La
Member since Sep 2013
2513 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:26 pm to
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HWY 30 was already scheduled to be expanded


Hwy 30 and La 1 need to structured like a interstate. Take away every freaking red light, build a few strategically placed over passes and make exits.
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2289 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:56 pm to
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. Every local mayor, rep, etc. all has their hand out and becomes an obstructionist when they don't get their way. It's why he have a new fricking $400 million dollar bridge in the middle of nowhere (Audubon bridge) while I-10 continues becoming an even bigger mess


And slightly off topic, but this is also why we may never see a NO to BR rail connection. Plan is drawn up, middle of nowhere town/parish doesn't get a station, they bitch and complain enough to either kill the project, or even worse, they get a station that adds 20 minutes to the ride that 23 people use a day.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:58 pm to
Study paid for by Iberville parish.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 12:59 pm to
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And slightly off topic, but this is also why we may never see a NO to BR rail connection. Plan is drawn up, middle of nowhere town/parish doesn't get a station, they bitch and complain enough to either kill the project, or even worse, they get a station that adds 20 minutes to the ride that 23 people use a day.


Logical solution is to have certain trains be express trains that bypass everything in the middle. And a few commuter trains each day that make those stops.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:21 pm to
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BigBerg


well he will have to wait for the bridge to be built to come find me
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36577 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Logical solution is to have certain trains be express trains that bypass everything in the middle. And a few commuter trains each day that make those stops.


Planners estimate only 210,000 riders on a BR/NO passenger train the first year.

The daily traffic count on I-10 between the split and Essen is just under 120,000 cars. On I-10 near Corporate the average is just under 178,000. These are all 2014 numbers so I suspect the current numbers are higher.

Spending 262 million for a RR, and then another 7 million or so to operate isn't going to hardly impact traffic on I-10/I-12 in BR.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43780 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:23 pm to
All they will be doing is creating traffic gridlock on the EBR side it ends up on.
They can sit in traffic on the bridge or they will cross the new bridge and sit in the same traffic on the EBR surface streets.

By the time it is done, I hope I will be retired.
Posted by ruger35
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
1596 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:24 pm to
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Hwy 30 and La 1 need to structured like a interstate. Take away every freaking red light, build a few strategically placed over passes and make exits.


This is the biggest problem with Ourso's pitch. Put the bridge in White Castle, great. But, you have to drive through the town of Plaquemine and HWY 1 with multiple red lights, curves, and a speed limit of 35 before opening up to 65. Then you get to White Castle which also has a 35 MPG speed limit.

HWY 1 would have to be restructured in order to truly make that bridge effective, or you would then have 20k cars going 35 mph or worse flying through Plaquemine and causing worse traffic from accidents.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101938 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:25 pm to
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Spending 262 million for a RR, and then another 7 million or so to operate isn't going to hardly impact traffic on I-10/I-12 in BR.


Does anyone expect it to have an immediate major impact on traffic? Or even long-term?

Major NE cities have well established commuter rail systems and still have terrible traffic.
Posted by MNCscripper
St. George
Member since Jan 2004
11730 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:27 pm to
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One of the quickest options that would still use existing roads (while waiting for a doubtful loop to be built) would be to put a bridge crossing from White Castle/Bayou Goula to HWY 30.


That would be a disaster. You realize how many vehicles are in & out of the plant and business driveways daily on Hwy 30?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:27 pm to
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All they will be doing is creating traffic gridlock on the EBR side it ends up on.
They can sit in traffic on the bridge or they will cross the new bridge and sit in the same traffic on the EBR surface streets.


That's why you tie it into I-10 somewhere around Highland with a big interchange.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:29 pm to
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That would be a disaster. You realize how many vehicles are in & out of the plant and business driveways daily on Hwy 30?


Plus you'd have to squeeze all that traffic through Plaquemine.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36577 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:31 pm to
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Does anyone expect it to have an immediate major impact on traffic? Or even long-term?


Yes, that's one of the selling points they use for the train. Supposedly it will take cars of I-10.

quote:

Major NE cities have well established commuter rail systems and still have terrible traffic.


Trains work well in densely populated areas like we have in the NE, but we are talking about more people needing transportation than we have in the entire state of La.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
43780 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:32 pm to
They will have to do tons of work on LA 1, River Road and LA 30 to make a new bridge even feasible.

The cost of the all this work plus the bridge is going to be so much, it's going to be a funding nightmare.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36577 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:36 pm to
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That's why you tie it into I-10 somewhere around Highland with a big interchange.


I believe that ship sailed years ago.

Planners should have planned for a BR Loop decades ago, but failed to do anything.

It's really a shame how poorly the original interstate was constructed in BR (bottlenecks. substandard ramps, exits to "nowhere", etc.) and now we are going to suffer because there were no provisions made for a by-pass , loop, or new bridge.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135222 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 1:38 pm to
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They will have to do tons of work on LA 1

That POS road has needed a major overhaul for 15 years anyway.
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