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Louisiana's 'Blue Lives Matter Bill' Under Attack
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:57 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:57 am
So this person has an issue with making it a hate crime to target and attack a cop in a preemptive manner? What is wrong with people? This also covers EMS and Firefighters as well.
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Hate crimes are suppose to be for classes or groups of people, NOT PROFESSIONS.
I'd argue more than likely someone who targets a cop targets that officer because he/she is a cop. Not for who they are individually. Therefore hate is directed towards a broad group of people.
This bill was meant to be a further deterrent to those who seek to attack the LEOs in our state. If the poster can't see that then they are blind and misguided.
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Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:59 am to tke857
If a job title is a classification and if a person is attacked due to that classification, that should be a hate crime.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 8:00 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:59 am to tke857
How about we scrap all these stupid billshit "hate" crime laws and instead stick the the constitution where we're all equal under the law? Is that too complicated?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:00 am to tke857
Thanks for leaving the posters name out of the picture. Avoids a lot of the non-productive conversation about the topic.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:00 am to tke857
where is that from?
link?
or is it facebook?
link?
or is it facebook?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:00 am to tke857
labeling certain murders as "hate crimes" is pretty ridiculous when you think about it
how many people pre meditate murdering someone that they love?
how many people pre meditate murdering someone that they love?
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 8:01 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:00 am to tke857
Just do away with hate crimes FFS. A crime is a crime, hateful or not.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:05 am to tke857
People choose their religion as well. Does this person think that attacking someone due to their religious beliefs is not a hate crime?
To counter their argument about soldiers, if a soldier is killed in the line of duty there is retribution in the form of killing the frickers who carried out the attack (if they didn't kill themselves during the attack). WOuld the person be ok with cops carrying out vendetta killings against groups/gangs who target cops? Or would they decree police abuse?
Weak argument is weak on the part of the quoted person. If it took them three+ months since the bills creation to formulate this argument then it spells once again why the US is in a decline in education rankings against other world powers.
To counter their argument about soldiers, if a soldier is killed in the line of duty there is retribution in the form of killing the frickers who carried out the attack (if they didn't kill themselves during the attack). WOuld the person be ok with cops carrying out vendetta killings against groups/gangs who target cops? Or would they decree police abuse?
Weak argument is weak on the part of the quoted person. If it took them three+ months since the bills creation to formulate this argument then it spells once again why the US is in a decline in education rankings against other world powers.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:06 am to tke857
They just mad that their pool of special hate crime victims is getting diluted. I'm not in favor of hate crime laws to begin with, but if we have to have them, then cops should definitely be included. Heck, lets include navy seals as well.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 8:07 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:21 am to tke857
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This bill was meant to be a further deterrent to those who seek to attack the LEOs in our state.
If someone says they are gonna go out and target cops then they are going to do it with or without this law. I was never a big fan of it personally. I feel that any person that attacks another is usually based on some form of hate regardless of profession, skin color, religion, etc.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:22 am to tke857
The navy seal that looses their life in the line of duty is not dealing with US Citizens on US soil. The foreign murdered isn't bound by US law. But like others have said. All of these hate laws need to be dropped. But as long as we have them I have no issue with there being one to protect the police.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:28 am to tke857
So if people start attacking guys wearing bedazzled jeans just because they're wearing bedazzled jeans, how is that not a hate crime? Beating up a public servant is already its own special law with harsher consequences than beating up a regular person
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:36 am to tke857
Let me put it this way. Go assault a police officer without this bill and then decide how lenient our justice system is on people who attack cops. I'll give you a hint, you are going to prison for longer than other assaults even without this bill.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:42 am to tke857
Rather than repeal it just create a bill for soldiers and create it as a hate crime if they are attacked while in uniform. Problem solved. frick that was hard.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:51 am to tke857
Hate crime legislation is bullshite by default.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:53 am to tke857
My argument for sentencing of criminals is that the sentence should be based on how long we can reasonably estimate that we need to protect the public from this person.
Someone who kills another person based solely on their classification (black, white, man, woman, police officer, catholic, Muslim, etc) is a threat to that entire group of people, therefore the public needs far more protection from that person. So that person should be sentenced much more harshly. Which is my reasoning for hate crime law.
However, the important distinction is that ANY classification should count for this. So a serial killer (someone who targets women that he doesn't know) is committing hate crimes
Someone who kills another person based solely on their classification (black, white, man, woman, police officer, catholic, Muslim, etc) is a threat to that entire group of people, therefore the public needs far more protection from that person. So that person should be sentenced much more harshly. Which is my reasoning for hate crime law.
However, the important distinction is that ANY classification should count for this. So a serial killer (someone who targets women that he doesn't know) is committing hate crimes
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 8:54 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 8:59 am to tke857
A Navy SEAL is a sailor, not a soldier. Just sayin'...
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:04 am to tke857
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This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 12:21 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:19 am to tke857
Cops that are targeted should get the same treatment as that Seal would get it they're targeted.
When do we start training LEO's on how to call in an airstrike?
When do we start training LEO's on how to call in an airstrike?
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:22 am to tke857
Hate crimes shouldn't exist at all, whether it be for classes or for certain professions.
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