re: Statues in NOLA are coming down.

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Please show specifically where my opinion has changed on this subject.

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You keep bossing me around with your opinion being the object of the game, like I give a shite when your opinions on things change.

There is one bad fly in the buttermilk in all this veneration of the so-called CSA.

The CSA didn’t really have much success on the battlefield. Federal battle deaths were 110,000, CSA battle deaths were 94,000. Since the so-called CSA was on the defensive, and the recent wide spread use of the rifled musket magnified defensive power at the expense of offensive power, those figures should show –many- more federal deaths than CSA deaths, in keeping with Napoleon’s dictum that it takes three attackers to drive off one defender. The rebels also had the advantage of interior lines.

Federal armies in the ‘West’ went pretty much from victory to victory throughout the war, capturing Forts Henry and Donelson early in 1862, occupying Nashville not long after that, driving into north Mississippi to cut the east-west rail line to Texas, driving off CSA army after army in the investment of Vicksburg, where an entire army was captured, driving the rebels out of middle Tennessee and capturing Chattanooga, inexorably advancing on and capturing Atlanta, Savannah and Columbia. The single bad check of the western federal armies was at Chickamauga.

In the eastern theater, Lee had as little success outside Virginia as various federal generals had within it. He is vastly overrated. After he wrecked his own army for offensive operations, he operated primarily on the defensive in an era when defensive technologies were dominant.

Finally, when the big plantation owners reneged on their pledge to raise food stuffs to feed the soldiers’ families, the rebel armies melted away. All that “you fought all the way Johnnie Reb’ is a lot of road apples.

One thing to keep in mind about the so-called CSA is that it never really existed. The various rebel states passed secession documents – you can do the same thing. But since they were no more able than you to give them force, the so-called CSA was just what President Lincoln called them: Combinations too powerful to be dealt with by the US Marshals.

As the so-called CSA was busy collapsing and its armies were melting away, President Lincoln was criticized for treating with the legislature of Virginia. He had not done that he said, he dealt with a group who styled themselves as the legislature of Virginia, because they had power to effect events.

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However, having sympathizers doesn't usually mean being honored in the town square.

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We should put up a George Washington Carver statute for good measure. Real titan.

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There is no chance the rebels can be covered in rectitude.

Robert E. Lee himself called secession revolution. And it was totally unwarranted.

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I would agree with this, however, my point was to ask him if he thought they were justified in calling for revolution.

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Triggered over fricking statues.

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It's quite clear who is triggered by the statues.

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Freedom of thought and freedom to remember are too dangerous for a free society to have.

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Link to you losing said freedoms because a city is MOVING some statues to another location?

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Good. No reason to be still venerating "heroes" of a white supremacist government in the 21st century. Let 'em put these statues in a museum where they belong.

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I'm ok with this for the most part. Jackson Square is my exception. The man was a POTUS and war hero. Are Jefferson and Washington next?

They owned slaves and one balled his slave.

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It's quite clear who is triggered by the statues.

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The level of self-unawareness exhibited by those who would rather the statues not come down is amazing.