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Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:00 pm to X123F45
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I've never understood the Nazi pageantry and the rampant drug use by all forces.
The guys were eating amphetamines like candy.
You pretty much nailed exactly what I was going to say.
The HUGE Nazi Rallies and the pilots for all sides on amphetamines.
I'd really like to know what was done for these pilots and officers who stayed jacked up on amps for several years. Did this shorten their lives, did they have major issues when back in the US at normal jobs? I am very curious on this subject. Any reading or 411 would be appreciated.
On a slight hijack I would love to read about drug abuse among US Soldiers in Vietnam.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:01 pm to X123F45
What fascinates me is how Hitler basically went from in prison to supreme commander to conquering countries, attempting to eradicate all the Jews through the Holocaust, and fall back down in ruins for the entire country of Germany, all in a decade's time.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:01 pm to upgrayedd
I think the Vegas odds are -300 that Hitler had a micro-penis.
Small, puny guy, a bit malnourished for years of his life during terrible depression times.
Obvious and epic little man syndrome.
Small, puny guy, a bit malnourished for years of his life during terrible depression times.
Obvious and epic little man syndrome.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:04 pm to X123F45
I honestly find the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party to be utterly fascinating. Everything from the ideology to the pseudoscience is simply amazing. Even though Germany was pretty destitute at the time in many regions it was still a well advanced country.
To see the rise of the Nazi ideology is pretty amazing.
Definitely a horror that we must make sure never happens again.
To see the rise of the Nazi ideology is pretty amazing.
Definitely a horror that we must make sure never happens again.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:14 pm to X123F45
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I've never understood the Nazi pageantry and the rampant drug use by all forces.
It stems from their Prussian roots. The Germanic people have always been rife with pageantry when it come to the martial aspect of their society.
And why wouldn't they use scientific substances in order to improve their troops' fighting ability?
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:25 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Hitler
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Obvious and epic little man syndrome.
Yeah!, that and pathetic loser wannabe is usually how he is characterized by historians today, and yet here we are 70+ years later and we are still discussing this guy with some unspoken fascination.
50 percent of military programing on cable is about Hitler. Hell, our great grandkids will be reading about and discussing this dude.
And kid yourself if you must, but if Hitler was to somehow comeback alive, he would have more "sauerkraut" thrown at him than both you and I could fantasize about.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:26 pm to fr33manator
Lately what really fascinates me about WWII is the scale of the war between Germany and Russia. These were clashes of armies of millions of men all across a 1500 mile front.
Truly epic when compared to the scale of the rest of the war in Europe.
Truly epic when compared to the scale of the rest of the war in Europe.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:29 pm to bayoumuscle21
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The ultra-nationalism. Limiting critical media, creating cults of personality. The things you need to watch out for to make sure never happen again.
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Sounds like liberal America.
Yeah. Totally.Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:30 pm to lsu2006
Now, on the thread. I'm fascinated by the Japanese military culture. Absolutely brutal.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:30 pm to Amadeo
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Yeah!, that and pathetic loser wannabe is usually how he is characterized by historians today
First, little man syndrome does not come close to meaning the same thing as "Pathetic loser wannabe.
Second, I have literally never heard an historian insinuate that he is a "loser wannabe". I've had history professors from all walks of life and backgrounds teach me about WW2 and that has never been a prevailing idea. He is always portrayed as brilliant and ruthless, yet overconfident and delusional in his later years.
There are lots of notable men in history that were successful, and often times that chip on their shoulder is what drives them. (Napoleon being the most obvious) Girls didn't like Hitler because he was puny and shy, his dad didn't like Hitler because he wanted to be an artist, the art school didn't like Hitler because he wasn't exceptional, etc.
He has a classic dejection syndrome.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:30 pm to X123F45
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What fascinates you concerning WW2? by Rando
The enormity of it all, especially the Eastern Front.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:31 pm to X123F45
Well, not really WW2 specifically, but Hitler's rise in the early 1930s is interesting. The politics of it all.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:31 pm to TheCaterpillar
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There are lots of notable little men in history that were successful, and often times that chip on their shoulder is what drives them. (Napoleon being the most obvious)
Pretty sure Napoleon was actually average or above average height.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:32 pm to X123F45
I love learning about American civilians participating in the war effort at home. The National World War II Museum has a great section devoted to that part of the war.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:33 pm to lsu2006
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Pretty sure Napoleon was actually average or above average height.
Yeah he actually was, its just called Napoleon Complex* so I brought it up.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:36 pm to East Coast Band
You need to watch the history channels "Rise of the Third Reich" and "Fall of the Third Reich" They go into great detail about the rise and fall of Hitler and is a very interesting show. My favorite part is how they show Berlin prior and during the 1936 Olympics and how the hatred for the Jews was hidden from the rest of the world during those games.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:38 pm to mikelbr
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On a slight hijack I would love to read about drug abuse among US Soldiers in Vietnam.
One thing I've read is that most were able to leave it behind once they left Vietnam. There were some exceptions, but there weren't rampant numbers of soldiers coming home strung out and addicted. Which raises some interesting questions about the nature of addiction itself.
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:39 pm to WHS
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1936 Olympics and how the hatred for the Jews was hidden from the rest of the world during those games.
To the spirit of this thread, I have always been fascinated by what the German people thought was happening to the Jews when they were rounded up.
How many of them knew the breadth of the atrocities? Did they know of the concentration camps in detail? Did they know of the genocide?
Or did they just think it was like our Japanese internment camps? (which were bad in their own right)
Posted on 2/23/17 at 12:40 pm to Jim Rockford
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One thing I've read is that most were able to leave it behind once they left Vietnam. There were some exceptions, but there weren't rampant numbers of soldiers coming home strung out and addicted. Which raises some interesting questions about the nature of addiction itself.
It was CRAZY easy to get in Vietnam, wasn't it? I feel like availability had a huge part in that.
Also, some people are just genetically inclined to have addiction issues.
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