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Do You Think Alleva Is Letting JJ Play the Season Out to Bury Brown/Temple?
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:49 am
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:49 am
There's really no positive way to spin what's happening because it means one of the following:
a) Alleva was a weak enough AD to succumb to the influence of Brown and Temple in hiring a basketball coach and needs things to get ugly enough to neuter their influence.
b) Alleva is so weak of an AD that he doesn't have enough professional/political clout to oust JJ.
c) Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics so as not to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.
a) Alleva was a weak enough AD to succumb to the influence of Brown and Temple in hiring a basketball coach and needs things to get ugly enough to neuter their influence.
b) Alleva is so weak of an AD that he doesn't have enough professional/political clout to oust JJ.
c) Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics so as not to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:51 am to shutterspeed
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c) Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.
Doubt it. I've seen Alleva speak in seminars on campus and if there is one thing he is ultra-aware of and responsive to, its money. He sees those already-low ticket sales going even lower. No doubt about that.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:51 am to shutterspeed
No. He is doing that for the $.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:58 am to shutterspeed
Alleva is doing exactly that. He's letting Dale and Collis and the boys see what they lobbied for. Joe enjoys a little condescension as much as anyone. He's absolutely gonna let jones go down in flaming ball of poo bc joe knows how this makes the good ole boys look too. He's gonna get his money's worth and then he will make the change. Don't expect it prior to seasons end. Joe is enjoying his I told you so too much right now
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:59 am to shutterspeed
It has to either be the incompetence option or that he knows he is miserably bad at hiring coaches and is scared that he will lose his job after he fricks up yet another hire.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 9:59 am to shutterspeed
Why would anybody think Alleva has a plan about anything at this point?
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:01 am to shutterspeed
Funny 3 choices. Probably more like, 'we fired the inept football coach mid-season and that brought a ton of negative publicity.' Considering this, a lack of long-term plan, bball profitability and the contract buy out, this is a pretty simple conclusion.
Let's grab an awesome coach from one of the Cinderellas this March.
Let's grab an awesome coach from one of the Cinderellas this March.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:05 am to shutterspeed
Alleva doesn't want to fire 2 coaches in-season, but he really needs to end this debacle with JJ now. Can't really get a great coach until after madness is over. So no giant hurry I guess. Let this season be over with.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:05 am to shutterspeed
don't the think the average Joe realizes the BS that took place regarding Brown/Temple/Jones
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:06 am to lsutigermall
LSU saves $800000 by firing him at the end of the year. If one of you Ballers won't him gone that bad I'm sure if you will write the check he would be gone tomorrow
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:07 am to shutterspeed
I think he lets it go to the end for a few reasons:
1. A change now isn't going to "save" the season and he doesn't have many (if any) influential boosters/BOS members jumping down his throat to replace Jones like he did with Miles.
2. Jones has definitely underachieved, but he hasn't been horrible until this season. For all of the obviously weak coaching, this will be his first losing season. Maybe Joe thinks he deserves to finish out his tenure.
3. He may not want to get the reputation of an AD who has a proclivity to fire coaches mid-season. While becoming less so, it's still somewhat taboo to fire a coach mid-season in the college game. Maybe he thinks doing it twice in the same season will hurt his chances of luring a good coach here.
***In the end does it really matter though? We've seen what he did with a two-month head start on replacing Miles. He could have gotten the same result with a two minute head start. Hopefully Joe is putting together a short list and getting a game plan ready implement as soon as the season ends. However, based on past history, we can't be confident that is the case.
1. A change now isn't going to "save" the season and he doesn't have many (if any) influential boosters/BOS members jumping down his throat to replace Jones like he did with Miles.
2. Jones has definitely underachieved, but he hasn't been horrible until this season. For all of the obviously weak coaching, this will be his first losing season. Maybe Joe thinks he deserves to finish out his tenure.
3. He may not want to get the reputation of an AD who has a proclivity to fire coaches mid-season. While becoming less so, it's still somewhat taboo to fire a coach mid-season in the college game. Maybe he thinks doing it twice in the same season will hurt his chances of luring a good coach here.
***In the end does it really matter though? We've seen what he did with a two-month head start on replacing Miles. He could have gotten the same result with a two minute head start. Hopefully Joe is putting together a short list and getting a game plan ready implement as soon as the season ends. However, based on past history, we can't be confident that is the case.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:11 am to Skillet
No reason to do it now. Let the disgrace brought to us by Dale and his boys be on full display for all to witness. They won't be able to say shite when this team closes out the season like they will.
Fire him after the season is officially over and start the process. This season is done and firing him now isn't gonna change anything and would only leave room for the supporters to say jones didn't get a chance and argue that the team was about to make a run.
Leave no doubt joe. Sweep the leg.
Fire him after the season is officially over and start the process. This season is done and firing him now isn't gonna change anything and would only leave room for the supporters to say jones didn't get a chance and argue that the team was about to make a run.
Leave no doubt joe. Sweep the leg.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:13 am to shutterspeed
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There's really no positive way to spin what's happening because it means one of the following:
a) Alleva was a weak enough AD to succumb to the influence of Brown and Temple in hiring a basketball coach and needs things to get ugly enough to neuter their influence.
b) Alleva is so weak of an AD that he doesn't have enough professional/political clout to oust JJ.
c) Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics so as not to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.
I can't stand Alleva. But this is a dumb post.
D) Alleva is waiting until the end of the season when a change will be made.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:15 am to Lithium
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LSU saves $800000 by firing him at the end of the year. If one of you Ballers won't him gone that bad I'm sure if you will write the check he would be gone tomorrow
Don't think this is true.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:16 am to FamousAmos
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Alleva is so incompetent/aloof about athletics to think there's actually an issue with LSU basketball.
Do people really think that the guy who does this for a living, and has knowledge of all the behind-the-scenes circumstances that we don't, isn't perceptive enough to know that there's no issue with the basketball team? All because he doesn't make a knee-jerk blind firing without a long term plan?
So he's just supposed to make a quick off-with-their-head decision and then think about the repercussions and future plan afterwards?
I mean that's borderline delusion from the fanbase. We have absolutely NO IDEA what's going on behind closed doors.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:17 am to Stephen1979
Brown and Temple are lobbying for a Cinderella run in the sec tourney
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:17 am to emanresu
He never had to think about firing the basketball coach at duke. Maybe he needs on the job training.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:23 am to shutterspeed
I personally believe Alleva is afraid if he fires Jones during this season the players will refuse to play the remaining games.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:33 am to shutterspeed
Is there anything Alleva has been involved in that hasn't turned into a PR nightmare?
LSU should have known what they were getting in Alleva when they hired him because of the Duke lacrosse scandal.
LSU should have known what they were getting in Alleva when they hired him because of the Duke lacrosse scandal.
Posted on 2/5/17 at 10:38 am to shutterspeed
Seriously, what's the point in canning him? Satisfaction?
It isn't like we have a savior sitting as an assistant on the bench. We can compile a coaching team consisting of Wooden,Smith, Knight, K, Izzo, Boeheim, Calhoun and this team still isn't going to win games.
It isn't like we have a savior sitting as an assistant on the bench. We can compile a coaching team consisting of Wooden,Smith, Knight, K, Izzo, Boeheim, Calhoun and this team still isn't going to win games.
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