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Lest we never forget...Jacksonville State.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:39 pm
Here is the reason why there was a quarterback change this past season. Go straight to LSU's first drive at the 12 minute mark. The commentators do a good job breaking down the then starting qb for LSU and setting the scene for what was to come. Look at the 13 minute mark as there is a wide open short pass extremely overthrown, 14:27 high pass that could have been caught for a first down if thrown chest high and outside at the chain. You can hear the announcers breaking down the poor quarterback play. Go to the 23 minute mark for LSU's next drive. At 23:45 he badly overthrows yet another receiver for what should have been a pick. After two 3 and outs even Miles has seen enough (This is Jacksonville state for heavens sake). The backup qb comes in at 35:25, the crowd roars with excitement and the rest is history. Watch the check down reads (37:25 mark) accurate throws with touch (deep ball at 39:16), the chains move (51:00) and the points scored on the next 3 drives. Incidentally at the 59:00 mark we see Ensminger for the first time as they talk about his home being flooded not realizing that he would lead the offense for most of the rest of the season.
Video of the full game here.
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I present that to state this. Folks want to blame coaches, system, etc...for the poor quarterback play that is mainly due to inaccuracy at least in this case. One guy comes in and has poor mechanics (you can hear the announcers break this down very well) and can't throw accurately thus no first downs. The second guy comes in and runs the exact same offense with the exact same personnel demonstrates good mechanics and the offense starts clicking in all phases. Yes coaching and scheme definitely have a lot to do with scoring offense, but to blame the type of play that got this guy benched on the coaches doesn't seem fair.
Video of the full game here.
LINK
I present that to state this. Folks want to blame coaches, system, etc...for the poor quarterback play that is mainly due to inaccuracy at least in this case. One guy comes in and has poor mechanics (you can hear the announcers break this down very well) and can't throw accurately thus no first downs. The second guy comes in and runs the exact same offense with the exact same personnel demonstrates good mechanics and the offense starts clicking in all phases. Yes coaching and scheme definitely have a lot to do with scoring offense, but to blame the type of play that got this guy benched on the coaches doesn't seem fair.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:41 pm to Spankem
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Folks want to blame coaches, system, etc...for the poor quarterback play that is mainly due to inaccuracy at least in this case.
Well when you see the same problems with multiple QBs over a span of 8 years who should be blamed?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:44 pm to Spankem
did you just say Etling has a good deep ball???
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:47 pm to Spankem
Yes. Harris had zero confidence to start that Jacksonville St. game. He had been killed the entire week after Wisconsin, and it showed.
Etling came in and provided an immediate spark.
But let's not forget that Harris did the exact same thing the year before against Ms St. and New Mexico St.
Harris's game against Wisconsin did not look so much worse than a few of Etling's games.
Etling came in and provided an immediate spark.
But let's not forget that Harris did the exact same thing the year before against Ms St. and New Mexico St.
Harris's game against Wisconsin did not look so much worse than a few of Etling's games.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:47 pm to Spankem
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Folks want to blame coaches, system, etc
how does having an inaccurate QB let the coaches off the hook? Who is recruiting them and developing them? Why is a QB that is performing badly our best option?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:52 pm to Spankem
Do you know what Etling's stats were for that game?
This is why I say the bias people have is unparalled
This is why I say the bias people have is unparalled
Posted on 1/13/17 at 2:57 pm to Spankem
The only thing I got out of that is Lindsey Scott is really short.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:00 pm to Spankem
who recruits the QBs? Who develops them? Who decides which QB to start?
Yes, Harris is inaccurate and that's on him.
But a lot of the blame also DOES need to go to the coaches -- they recruited him, developed him, and (knowing he's inaccurate) decided to put him in the game.
I mean it's not as if Harris was suddenly thrust into the starter's role - he had started the entire previous year and was starter throughout the spring and fall. If the coaches can't figure out that Etling is a better fit for our offense after all of that, when it's clearly obvious, then that's on the coaches.
Yes, Harris is inaccurate and that's on him.
But a lot of the blame also DOES need to go to the coaches -- they recruited him, developed him, and (knowing he's inaccurate) decided to put him in the game.
I mean it's not as if Harris was suddenly thrust into the starter's role - he had started the entire previous year and was starter throughout the spring and fall. If the coaches can't figure out that Etling is a better fit for our offense after all of that, when it's clearly obvious, then that's on the coaches.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:05 pm to Spankem
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olks want to blame coaches, system, etc...for the poor quarterback play that is mainly due to inaccuracy at least in this case.
The system and coaching had something to do with the continuous QB play issues as well. The only people who are wrong are the ones who think it's one or the other.
Ensminger ran the same system much better and some of the improvement we saw was a result of that...not just Etling. But, Etling did do a good job of performing his role and, for the most part, getting the ball into the hands of the playmakers enough to improve the offense.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 3:42 pm to Spankem
What people on here refuse to see is that had Les not been fired, we still blow out Missouri and Southern Miss in devastating fashion. The only difference in how the season plays out is that we beat Florida and play in the Sugar Bowl instead of the Citrus.
I'm all for replacing the coach if doing so for the sake of improvement. But changing just to change and actually possibly (probably) downgrading is not smart decision-making.
I'm all for replacing the coach if doing so for the sake of improvement. But changing just to change and actually possibly (probably) downgrading is not smart decision-making.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:02 pm to Spankem
you are being factual and your premise has common sense. however, this is the rant and the 16 yr old girls are not looking for truth, they are closed minded and if you do not support their opinion they fire shots. good luck.
note: I really wanted BH to be the guy; his passes were tight spirals and he has a cannon for an arm. I wanted a Mett that could run when needed. the coaches had zero to do with his unaccuracy. imo, he was taught the correct mechanics many times, he just freaked out in the battle of the game and reverted .
note: I really wanted BH to be the guy; his passes were tight spirals and he has a cannon for an arm. I wanted a Mett that could run when needed. the coaches had zero to do with his unaccuracy. imo, he was taught the correct mechanics many times, he just freaked out in the battle of the game and reverted .
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:04 pm to Spankem
While you're comparing the 2 QBs, one led his offense to score points against Bama and one didn't. One helped his team beat Florida while the other didn't. It will be an interesting spring with the QB competition for sure.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 4:23 pm to Spankem
Doesn't matter with anyone says we didn't prepare our QB's. We kept them on a short leash. To be honest we had a bad offensive philosophy and the play calling was terrible under Cam.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 5:17 pm to Spankem
Can you so kindly break down the 2nd half of the J'ville state game with that amount of detail. I would love a play-by-play. Thanks
Posted on 1/13/17 at 6:59 pm to Spankem
The title should be "lest we EVER forget"
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:17 pm to Spankem
And had Guice in the stable? This pisses me the F off.
With the rope a dope offense, Miles bets the farm and rides an injured once in a decade player.
Selfish retard.
With the rope a dope offense, Miles bets the farm and rides an injured once in a decade player.
Selfish retard.
This post was edited on 1/14/17 at 10:52 am
Posted on 1/15/17 at 8:52 am to Spankem
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Spankem
How have you been doing, Les?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 6:21 pm to Spankem
Very very difficult to argue or make a point against the op.
Etling > Harris.
What it all boils down to.
Etling > Harris.
What it all boils down to.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 11:01 am to Spankem
Who is the a-hole in the 59th minute when Etling throws first TD, pointing out the flag on the ground to BH? Like the td is gonna be called back to give BH confidence. bullshite
Posted on 1/17/17 at 12:34 pm to Spankem
Miles and Cam destroyed Harris confidence. Tell me why he has gotten more inaccurate over time? The guy never had these problems with simple throws in HS or his Freshman year. It started showing at spots in his Soph year, and came to a head the first games of this past year.
He's an emotional guy, which is not great for a QB, but i still hold out hope that Canada can make him a LOT better.
He's an emotional guy, which is not great for a QB, but i still hold out hope that Canada can make him a LOT better.
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