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re: Known Russia hawks John McCain & Lindsey Graham urge Trump to punish Russia
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:03 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:03 pm to NC_Tigah
I think that is a decent point.
However, how do we know the GOP wasn't hacked, and, if it was, does that make it vulnerable to blackmail?
And, does it concern you that Putin wanted Trump to win? Do you ask yourself "why?"
However, how do we know the GOP wasn't hacked, and, if it was, does that make it vulnerable to blackmail?
And, does it concern you that Putin wanted Trump to win? Do you ask yourself "why?"
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:03 pm to Navytiger74
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It'll dawn on you soon or later that this election wasn't some singular defining moment in human history.
quote:All fine and good. The issue you raised was potential "leverage" exerted by Graham-McCain over the Russian issue. I'm simply saying there maybe no such actual "leverage" existent amongst the majority populus.
The president-elect won fair and square, but he also won 3M fewer voters to an unpopular, unappealing lazy candidate with a weak record and a string of well-timed leaks dogging her. I have the social intelligence to understand that won't be well-received
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:08 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:The majority populous didn't like Mr. Trump the day he was elected. This hasn't helped. If his numbers hold through the 20th, he'll be the most unpopular president at inauguration since scientific polling was a thing.
I'm simply saying there maybe no such actual "leverage" existent amongst the majority populus.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:09 pm to Navytiger74
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but he also won 3M fewer voters to an unpopular, unappealing lazy candidate with a weak record and a string of well-timed leaks dogging her.
All thanks to super liberal, out of touch, (coastal) California where she won the state by something like 4+ million votes (and no telling how many illegals voted). The only state in the country where Hillary gained more votes than Obama.
And nearly every single day was operation destroy Trump day by the media. Over 90% of the coverage was negative. It eventually backfired on them, but that wasn't the intent. The intent was to destroy him as much as possible, so I don't want to hear any excuses.
This post was edited on 1/8/17 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:10 pm to TigerJeff
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However, how do we know the GOP wasn't hacked, and, if it was, does that make it vulnerable to blackmail
Maybe if the GOP and the Democrats weren't so slimy no one would worry so much. Kind of weird how the low hanging fruit of RUSSIANS has glossed over the ugliness in those emails.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:34 pm to Navytiger74
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he'll be the most unpopular president at inauguration since scientific polling was a thing.
would that be the same scientific polling that had Hitlery up by double digits?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:34 pm to Navytiger74
quote:You are talking past the issue.
If his numbers hold through the 20th, he'll be the most unpopular president at inauguration since scientific polling was a thing.
There may be effective leverage points against Trump. "Russians" might possibly be one of them. But I very seriously doubt it.
Again, the problem with the "Russians" thing (whether true or not) is it did not involve disinformation. It was not fake news. Far from it. It involved providing the US public with facts.
Had it not been for "the hacks," Americans would never have seen most of these facts. Ironically in the process, sources of fact concomitantly exposed MSM duplicity. Sort of a double whammy. Far from looking to punish the "perps", I'd guess we might well find the public appreciative.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:41 pm to Navytiger74
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The majority populous didn't like Mr. Trump the day he was elected. This hasn't helped. If his numbers hold through the 20th, he'll be the most unpopular president at inauguration since scientific polling was a thing.
Tell us more about how the 2016 election polls; or Obama's current Presidential approval polls aren't a complete fallacy?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:43 pm to NC_Tigah
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Far from looking to punish the "perps", I'd guess we might well find the public appreciative.
Well they poll for that. You can find that info. They don't just talk to people here, though.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:45 pm to TigerJeff
Lindsey Graham is a bathroom stall, toe tapping fruit. He needs to just go away to a gay bathhouse and never come back.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:46 pm to NC_Tigah
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Far from looking to punish the "perps", I'd guess we might well find the public appreciative.
If the media did their jobs in investigative reporting and vetting...
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:54 pm to cajunangelle
quote:On a national level they were about 1.5% off. That's how much they overestimated Clinton's take. That's a good bit less than how much they underestimated Obama's in 2012. Both were sill close.
Tell us more about how the 2016 election polls;
quote:And you know this how? Maw maw and bubba 'nem aren't the only people polled.
Obama's current Presidential approval polls aren't a complete fallacy?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:56 pm to Contra
Lindsay can go suck another dick
Posted on 1/8/17 at 1:58 pm to Navytiger74
quote:They poll for POTUS Candidates too, don't they?
Well they poll for that.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:02 pm to Dandy Lion
He happily would.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:02 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:Again, the national polls weren't far off at all (less so than in 2012). The state polls were off in a number of places, with both candidates over and underperforming their predecessors in some interesting ways. All-in-all, polls weren't horribly off--except that one shitty LA times poll everyone swore by.
They poll for POTUS Candidates too, don't they?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:03 pm to Contra
Punish Russia? Why is the DNC functioning with fourth world cyber security/protection?
I find their smug stupidity and ignorant outrage more alarming.
I find their smug stupidity and ignorant outrage more alarming.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:06 pm to Contra
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In a couple weeks, Donald Trump will be the defender of the free world and democracy,
I get tired of them using this as excuse to war monger. Like they give a shite about freedom and democracy
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:10 pm to Navytiger74
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since scientific polling was a thing
This shows how much of a retard you are. Scientific polling is a scam and a propaganda tool by the MSM. Anyone that talks about polling after this election outs themselves as a complete retard. Congrats on the accomplishment.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 2:12 pm to NC_Tigah
Surely you aren't sampling the winds of pro vs. anti Red sentiment from these bizarre and parochial environs ("Political Talks" on "Tigerdroppings") only? Plenty of us out here who aren't fans of "Pootie," the KGB, the Soviet Union, Russia, or Communists.
Truly bizarre some of you are remarkably unconcerned about this, yet were quick to jump on the "Obama is a Muslim Kenyan committed to a one -world jihadist order" schtick.
Truly bizarre some of you are remarkably unconcerned about this, yet were quick to jump on the "Obama is a Muslim Kenyan committed to a one -world jihadist order" schtick.
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