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re: NCAA is a Joke: LSU's Secondary Violations

Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:50 am to
Posted by HoumaTigerFan
Member since Jan 2008
5483 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:50 am to
We are talking recruits vs players. Different issue
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65527 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:52 am to
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how the frick does bama have trent richardson come back and run as scout team running back for them and that not be a violation?


the difference is it isn't a violation for current players to have contact with former players. It is a violation for a recruit to have contact with players like that. Regardless, nothing is going to come of this, not sure why people seem to be freaking out. These are both very minor violations
Posted by 33inNC
Charlotte, NC
Member since Mar 2011
4997 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:53 am to
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You mean, having former Bama/NFL players PARTICIPATE in practice? Don't you? IMHO, That is easily for more egregious than a hand shake.


Exactly. Add to this the fact that said players take the work away from current players who can focus on the game and not have to imitate the opponent.

This goes hand in hand with the stupid arse coaching staff stuff. The "shadow" coaches can focus on breaking down film/game planning while the "real" coaches do their job. There is a limit on players and coaches for a reason, it is UNFAIR to other teams to have less strain on people due to this.

It absolutely floors me that Sark can just step right in, he obviously has been coaching more that he is allowed to like all other Bama personnel.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27324 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:53 am to
I know Alex Bregman was posing for pictures with a bunch of different baseball recruits when he was in for the Alabama game. I saw a few posted on-line.

I know Shaq has talked to basketball recruits when he comes to football games, if any are visiting at that time.

This is a wink-wink-nod-nod rule that has no repercussions, but they enforce these little admin issues to keep it from expanding and becoming a big deal.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9456 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:54 am to
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They are also allowed to have their ex-players come and help them practice

SO are we. We just don't do it. You people are sensitive pussies.
Posted by forever lsu30
Member since Nov 2005
3954 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:56 am to
I fail to understand how an meeting an ex-LSU player/alum is a violation of any kind with recruiting. What's the point of using former player's pictures & videos all over the athletic facilties but these kids can't actually shake their hands?!?!?

So are we to believe that Bo Jackson, Shaq, Tebow, Flutie, name them all are barred from meeting recruits in any on-campus setting? What if they meet a kid as say a freshman or sophomore that isn't being recruited but then becomes a recruit by their junior or senior years?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50556 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:57 am to
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Bo Bahnsen can eat a whole bowl of dicks.


No. Bo is easily one of the best at his job in the entire country.

Take pride in the fact that LSU goes above and beyond to have a clean program and image, while winning the RIGHT WAY.

I'll stop typing now since this is the rant...
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:58 am to
These were self reported violations, and no penalties because of it. Oh well. Let's move on.
Posted by forever lsu30
Member since Nov 2005
3954 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:00 pm to
The point is that penalties/rules against ridiculous crap like this are the reason people HATE the NCAA offices. Far too much regulation for crap that does not need to be regulated.

Rules/sanctions against hookers, excessive spending on recruits, etc = understandable.

Rules/sanctions against a bottle of Powerade, some snacks, or shaking the hand of sports heroes/stars = C'MON MAN!!!
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
17899 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:01 pm to
Bo Bahnsen is a dick.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27324 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:06 pm to
This is no big deal. They do this to help prevent bigger violations.

If they slap your hand because Shaq took a selfie on the sideline, it may prevent Shaq from calling a recruit in the future. (illustrative example only)
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68490 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:10 pm to
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This is no big deal. They do this to help prevent bigger violations.

If they slap your hand because Shaq took a selfie on the sideline, it may prevent Shaq from calling a recruit in the future. (illustrative example only)




EXACTLY


And to all the numnuts comparing this to interactions with players at bama, are just that, numnuts. Recruits =/= players
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2685 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:12 pm to
So Alabama can have NFL and ExNFL players practice with them but we cant have an ex player shake a recruit hand on the sideline
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:13 pm to
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I understand that interaction with an agent is a violation, but this?


These are SELF REPORTED violations. The NCAA could give a shite less about them. It's just our department doing their job.

The NCAA has to have rules. Some of you all need to get a grip.

If the NCAA were to punish us for this, then it's a whole 'nother deal. But they aren't and it's a 'hey, don't do that again' type of deal.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 12:16 pm
Posted by The Rodfather
I'm not really sure?
Member since Nov 2008
3941 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:15 pm to
Pay the former players a nominal fee to be a "consultant / temp staffer" every time they visit to avoid this bullshite and now they can talk to them and hang out with out the issues.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:19 pm to
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Yet Alabama can pay their players and have 2 coaching staffs.

and the Bama obsession continues...
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:20 pm to
People don't care about what the article actually said. They just need an excuse to bitch about something Bama.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18194 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:22 pm to
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The point is that penalties/rules against ridiculous crap like this are the reason people HATE the NCAA offices. Far too much regulation for crap that does not need to be regulated.

I agree this seems silly, but the NCAA has to draw the line somewhere. If the line needs to be moved, then fine, move it, but the line has to be drawn somewhere.
Posted by MegaTiger3
League City, TX
Member since Jan 2014
2141 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:30 pm to
Pretty sure Herron received the ride from an agent. Hence the Bowl suspension. Take it FWIW
Posted by billfish21
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2009
1594 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 12:37 pm to
Former bama NFL players can run as scout team players... seems like this 'contact' could amount to a considerable number of secondary violations.
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