re: Obama's advice to Trump: Don't use executive orders too much

quote:

---

I know this board is post facts and doesn't care about the truth. Obama issued fewer executive orders per year than Bush jr, reagan, ford, clinton, bush sr, carter, nixon,kennedy, ike and johnson.

---

Well, unfortunately, all his "legacy legislation" has been do everything through EO, so he knows nothing will last.

Sounds like you're against EOs to me. At least when the evil white man did it in the past. Why do you want to give preferential treatment to the half white half African American?

Since you were adamantly against EOs in the past, why the radical flip to it being okay for the mulatto?


And before you try to flip it on me, I don't agree with just using EOs willy nilly.

quote:

---

Tell that to Ronald Reagan with his 381 EOs, or Richard Nixon with his 346, or Ike with his 484, or Harding's 522, or Taft's 724, or Hoover's 968, or Coolidge's 1,203! All Republicans, BTW. They kind of make Obama's 260 look rather paltry.

---

It is content of the EO that matters not the EO itself.

Some executive orders don't change policy at all, and can be considered in the realm of housekeeping

Obama's in most cases did change policy and used the language of SHALL and MUST which have effect on how laws can be carried out.

He even said as much himself.

quote:

---

Sounds like you're against EOs to me.

---

I'm not. I'm merely showing that what Obama has done isn't substantively different from what previous presidents have done, yet for some reason he's being singled out.

quote:

---

Since you were adamantly against EOs in the past

---

I wasn't, just the socialist ones.

quote:

---

I don't agree with just using EOs willy nilly.

---

Yet, you didn't have any criticism of any prior to Obama?

That's called 'hypocrisy'.

From your wiki link:

quote:

---

with economists and politicians across the political spectrum trying to make sense of the Nixon Shock and its impact on monetary policy in the light of the financial crisis of 2007–08.

---

So, it wasn't 'Bush's fault' after all. It was 'Nixon's fault.' And we can therefore extrapolate that the near flat line recovery over the last 8 years is not Obama's fault, but actually Nixon's fault.
This also means that Trump will not have a good economy because he has not addressed any plan to overcome Nixon's 'Shock.'
It's all very clear now.

quote:

---

Obama thinks he's slick,

---

As of the end of 2015, President Obama had issued 242 executive orders according to the Federal Register office, 29 of them in 2015. The White House press office lists an even greater number that includes some not published in the Federal Register.

Despite being the most mentioned in policy debate, executive orders are not (yet) the fountain from which most big decrees issue, rather, presidential memoranda are where the real action is.

Memoranda may or may not be published, depending on a president's determination of “general applicability and legal effect.” That makes it tricky to count them.

Obama’s pace for memoranda tops that of the George Bush years. Bush published 131 memos that were published in the Federal Register over his entire presidency, while President Obama issued 219 during his first seven years, with another year to go.

Not all memoranda get published in the Federal Register; additional ones appear on the Obama White House press office page.

LINK

quote:

---

It's funny how no one worries about it until a black man issues EOs.

---

TROLLLOLOLOLOLOLOL

quote:

---

You mean like mandatory min wage for government contractors?

---

Not.

Even.

Close.

How about this, don't sign a contract with the government. That's how you could avoid that one.

There was no getting around Nixon's EOs. They applied to pretty much every private business - and landlord. And they didn't set minimum wages, they set MAXIMUM prices!

quote:

---

And the Waiver Under the Trade Act of 1974 With Respect to the Republic of Belarus isn't?

---

Describe this EO in your own words... we'll wait.