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re: Is it possible that the Beatles are a bit overrated?

Posted on 12/17/16 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by Kaizen
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 5:07 pm to
Have an upvote kingbob. You get it
Posted by Deke
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 5:30 pm to
I think they are underrated
Posted by WhopperDawg
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:06 pm to
I find the "who is the best" argument silly. But you have to give the Beatles their due. I lived Beatle mania and we have never seen the same before or since, I spent my first $5 on a Beatle's album. Their catalogue cannot be denied.

I prefer the Stones myself for a rock and roll band. The Beatles quit performing live early in their career and became a studio pop band, probably the quintessential studio pop band. But rock and roll bands don't live in the studio, they live on the stage.
Posted by Rockbrc
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 11:23 pm to
No
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 11:33 pm to
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I think they're basically the first "pop band"
You just nullified your thread.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:12 am to
You can't look at the Beatles through a 2016 lense. They revolutionized music and producing and were the first to do so many things.

Plus Sgt Pepper's made Brian Wilson shite his pants and lock himself inside his dark room for 3 weeks.
Posted by MaroonWhite
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:05 am to
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Plus Sgt Pepper's made Brian Wilson shite his pants and lock himself inside his dark room for 3 weeks.


You might have this backwards. Pet Sounds inspired the Beatles to create Sgt Pepper's.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:34 am to
No A Day in the Life broke him
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:51 am to
Hugely overrated. All of the members have better songs except John.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 9:39 am to
They basically reinvented music but I disagree with the label they get as the greatest band of all time. That's Led Zeppelin for me.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:22 pm to
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No A Day in the Life broke him


Yeah, Brian Wilson's psyche fractured when he heard this for the first time. He never recovered. He got processed by Lennon and McCartney.
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:32 pm to
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They basically reinvented music but I disagree with the label they get as the greatest band of all time. That's Led Zeppelin for me.

Posted by Degas
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:36 pm to
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Is it possible that the Beatles are a bit overrated?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:06 pm to
Beatles aren't my favorite band, but they're probably not overrated. People are still obsessed with them almost 50 years later.

I think the easiest way to justify the Beatles, in addition to assessing their influence on other music, is to look at the large number of iconic and widely known songs they put out in a span of a decade.

Posted by bzss7x
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:08 pm to
I think the Beatles are overrated. Great? Sure. But they happened to be the first mega band. They were not the last. The Stones outlasted them. Bob Dylan was a better writer. Hendrix was a superior musician. But the Beatles had excellent parts rolled into one. My one hesitation about them is the fact that they relied on covering songs to get their start and fame. They had some outstanding songs and set the stage for the truly awesome years of rock music to come. But in the end, I think too many people proclaim them the GOAT without really paying attention to the competition.
Posted by redneck hippie
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:55 pm to
Not overrated.
they are the greatest of all time and always will be
Posted by HeadyBrosevelt
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:02 pm to
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The Stones outlasted them


Eh, the Stones last good album was in 1978. Lennon was killed two years later. A Beatles reunion could have easily happened so I don't think you can really use that as an argument. Plus in 2016 the Stones are absolutely awful live whereas Paul McCartney puts on a great show.

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Bob Dylan was a better writer.


Debateable. Lennon/McCartney is right up there.

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Hendrix was a superior musician.


Better guitarist obviously. Overall musician- no. The Beatles' arrangements are superior and they had multiple multi-instrumentalists in the band.

The Beatles will never be topped.
Posted by mikrit54
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:46 pm to
No.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

I think the Beatles are overrated. Great? Sure. But they happened to be the first mega band. They were not the last. The Stones outlasted them. Bob Dylan was a better writer. Hendrix was a superior musician. But the Beatles had excellent parts rolled into one. My one hesitation about them is the fact that they relied on covering songs to get their start and fame. They had some outstanding songs and set the stage for the truly awesome years of rock music to come. But in the end, I think too many people proclaim them the GOAT without really paying attention to the competition.



Yeah but look at the environment at the time. Pretty much every influential artist of the era (many very highly revered) were covering songs. When you consider they were what, 17-20, and pretty much all the musicians they knew were making a living at least in part on other people's works, I cut them some slack.

Then they transitioned from that into one of the purest examples of a rock band writing its own music...we're basically penalizing them for not living up to the expectations they set for the industry.
Posted by LSUFootballLover
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:48 pm to
Yes
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