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Posted on 12/17/16 at 6:06 pm to Deke
I find the "who is the best" argument silly. But you have to give the Beatles their due. I lived Beatle mania and we have never seen the same before or since, I spent my first $5 on a Beatle's album. Their catalogue cannot be denied.
I prefer the Stones myself for a rock and roll band. The Beatles quit performing live early in their career and became a studio pop band, probably the quintessential studio pop band. But rock and roll bands don't live in the studio, they live on the stage.
I prefer the Stones myself for a rock and roll band. The Beatles quit performing live early in their career and became a studio pop band, probably the quintessential studio pop band. But rock and roll bands don't live in the studio, they live on the stage.
Posted on 12/17/16 at 11:33 pm to Upslope
quote:You just nullified your thread.
I think they're basically the first "pop band"
Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:12 am to Upslope
You can't look at the Beatles through a 2016 lense. They revolutionized music and producing and were the first to do so many things.
Plus Sgt Pepper's made Brian Wilson shite his pants and lock himself inside his dark room for 3 weeks.
Plus Sgt Pepper's made Brian Wilson shite his pants and lock himself inside his dark room for 3 weeks.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:05 am to The Boat
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Plus Sgt Pepper's made Brian Wilson shite his pants and lock himself inside his dark room for 3 weeks.
You might have this backwards. Pet Sounds inspired the Beatles to create Sgt Pepper's.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 2:34 am to MaroonWhite
No A Day in the Life broke him
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:51 am to Upslope
Hugely overrated. All of the members have better songs except John.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 9:39 am to Upslope
They basically reinvented music but I disagree with the label they get as the greatest band of all time. That's Led Zeppelin for me.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:22 pm to The Boat
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No A Day in the Life broke him
Yeah, Brian Wilson's psyche fractured when he heard this for the first time. He never recovered. He got processed by Lennon and McCartney.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:32 pm to DyeHardDylan
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They basically reinvented music but I disagree with the label they get as the greatest band of all time. That's Led Zeppelin for me.
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 12:36 pm to Upslope
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Is it possible that the Beatles are a bit overrated?
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Posted on 12/18/16 at 1:06 pm to Degas
Beatles aren't my favorite band, but they're probably not overrated. People are still obsessed with them almost 50 years later.
I think the easiest way to justify the Beatles, in addition to assessing their influence on other music, is to look at the large number of iconic and widely known songs they put out in a span of a decade.
I think the easiest way to justify the Beatles, in addition to assessing their influence on other music, is to look at the large number of iconic and widely known songs they put out in a span of a decade.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 4:08 pm to Pettifogger
I think the Beatles are overrated. Great? Sure. But they happened to be the first mega band. They were not the last. The Stones outlasted them. Bob Dylan was a better writer. Hendrix was a superior musician. But the Beatles had excellent parts rolled into one. My one hesitation about them is the fact that they relied on covering songs to get their start and fame. They had some outstanding songs and set the stage for the truly awesome years of rock music to come. But in the end, I think too many people proclaim them the GOAT without really paying attention to the competition.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 5:55 pm to Upslope
Not overrated.
they are the greatest of all time and always will be
they are the greatest of all time and always will be
Posted on 12/18/16 at 7:02 pm to bzss7x
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The Stones outlasted them
Eh, the Stones last good album was in 1978. Lennon was killed two years later. A Beatles reunion could have easily happened so I don't think you can really use that as an argument. Plus in 2016 the Stones are absolutely awful live whereas Paul McCartney puts on a great show.
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Bob Dylan was a better writer.
Debateable. Lennon/McCartney is right up there.
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Hendrix was a superior musician.
Better guitarist obviously. Overall musician- no. The Beatles' arrangements are superior and they had multiple multi-instrumentalists in the band.
The Beatles will never be topped.
Posted on 12/18/16 at 8:42 pm to bzss7x
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I think the Beatles are overrated. Great? Sure. But they happened to be the first mega band. They were not the last. The Stones outlasted them. Bob Dylan was a better writer. Hendrix was a superior musician. But the Beatles had excellent parts rolled into one. My one hesitation about them is the fact that they relied on covering songs to get their start and fame. They had some outstanding songs and set the stage for the truly awesome years of rock music to come. But in the end, I think too many people proclaim them the GOAT without really paying attention to the competition.
Yeah but look at the environment at the time. Pretty much every influential artist of the era (many very highly revered) were covering songs. When you consider they were what, 17-20, and pretty much all the musicians they knew were making a living at least in part on other people's works, I cut them some slack.
Then they transitioned from that into one of the purest examples of a rock band writing its own music...we're basically penalizing them for not living up to the expectations they set for the industry.
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