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re: Retired Green Beret officer: Mattis "left my men to die."
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:43 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:43 am to Jim Rockford
Was he reprimanded? Cause if not, you are dealing with a garden variety liberal political smear.
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Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:46 am to Jim Rockford
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Retired Green Beret officer: Mattis "left my men to die."
War is hell, not a John Wayne movie.
That is all.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:06 am to Jim Rockford
What a clown show the left has become
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:31 am to Jim Rockford
Congrats, you found a leftist hack to attack a republican appointee. Shocker.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:38 am to Jim Rockford
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This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 8:44 am
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:40 am to Jim Rockford
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Retired Lt. Col. Jason Amerine, in a Facebook post,
Professional
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:40 am to Jim Rockford
Amerine sounds like a bitch
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:54 am to Jim Rockford
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Mattis set helicopters under his command to help with the evacuation after the Air Force medevacs arrived at Rhino, “covering our first load of wounded in dust from their rotor wash as they launched,” Amerine wrote. “Cody died around the time we reached Rhino and I was told at least two Afghans died because of the delay but nobody knows for certain,” he wrote.
Kind of a big point, if you ask me. He won't say that it did in fact cost lives. He says may, might have, could have. Lots of innuendo. Also, the whole rotor wash comment is just dumb. That would have happened regardless and has nothing to do with Mattis.
From reading the article, it sounds like Mattis could not be assured of the safety of the rescue crew if he sent it in, so he waited. Sometimes, the CO has to decide if losing a few is better than losing a few more, plus the possibility of a chopper or two being knocked out of commission, which could lead to more deaths.
My guess is this is a petty swipe at Mattis by a guy who has a history with Mattis that goes beyond this one incident.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:58 am to Jim Rockford
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Probably not, but it will be on the record.
Are all facebook posts on the record?
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 9:07 am
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:01 am to Jim Rockford
quote:NB4 facts as well. But let's not allow such a small detail to get in the way. Amirite?
NB4 Benghazi
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:21 am to Jim Rockford
Unfortunately HRC's putrid and anemic performance in Benghazi did not do her in, though it should have. In fact, if it had truly mattered, she shouldn't have even run for the Office.
As to the alleged Matt is conduct, guess we'll see
As to the alleged Matt is conduct, guess we'll see
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:23 am to Jim Rockford
This definitely needs some further investigation and I would like to hear his side of the story and his reasoning behind his decisions in this case
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:28 am to Jim Rockford
This isn't even news. It's just news to the people the media wants it to be news to now.
Do you frickers ever have an original thought?
Oh. And, I'm actually very familiar with this and bluntly speaking, I think he shouldn't have delayed.
That said, there only people who think this is comparable to the Benghazi situation are people who don't possess enough general knowledge on the subject to know better.
If I had to guess though, it's a decision the General even second guesses himself on.
Here's a reality for you. That's the case for every combat leader who has served. Hell. Not even combat leaders.
My wife wrestles with a call she made in Afghanistan that was the ONLY right call. Literally zero disagreement.
But five aviators died including three she knew well and called friends.
frick the MSM for this because they don't give a shite about it and they won't really flesh it out. It's just a bludgeon they're using to attack Trump.
Do you frickers ever have an original thought?
Oh. And, I'm actually very familiar with this and bluntly speaking, I think he shouldn't have delayed.
That said, there only people who think this is comparable to the Benghazi situation are people who don't possess enough general knowledge on the subject to know better.
If I had to guess though, it's a decision the General even second guesses himself on.
Here's a reality for you. That's the case for every combat leader who has served. Hell. Not even combat leaders.
My wife wrestles with a call she made in Afghanistan that was the ONLY right call. Literally zero disagreement.
But five aviators died including three she knew well and called friends.
frick the MSM for this because they don't give a shite about it and they won't really flesh it out. It's just a bludgeon they're using to attack Trump.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:41 am to Jim Rockford
quote:this doesn't seem unreasonable
At the time, Mattis was reluctant to send aircraft without knowing the situation on the ground, according to an account in The Only Thing Worth Dying For.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:03 am to Jim Rockford
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A retired Green Beret officer alleged Friday
Democrat? The Military is full of Progressive Operatives. Will be interesting to see the Politics of this accuser.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:44 am to Jim Rockford
Army guys.... sounds like this guy needs a code red.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 11:49 am
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:34 pm to Jim Rockford
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wrote Amerine, who is a future of war fellow at the New America think tank in Washington, D.C.
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NAF has created a “Leadership Council” composed of individuals who have donated $25,000 or more to the organization. Among these luminaries are Neal Baer, executive producer of the television program Law & Order: Special Victims Unit; Craig Newmark, founder of CraigsList.org; and Jonathan Soros, president of Soros Fund Management and the son of George Soros.
NAF receives funding from the following foundations, organizations, and individuals: the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, the Ben & Jerry’s Foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the Charles Stewart Mott Foundation, the Christopher Reynolds Foundation, the CIGNA Foundation, the Colombe Foundation, the Nathan Cummings Foundation, the Dancing Tides Foundation, the Ettinger Foundation, the Evelyn & Walter Haas Jr. Fund, the Exxon-Mobil Corporation, the Ford Foundation, the Foundation for Child Development, the Foundation to Promote Open Society, the Fourth Freedom Forum, Free Press, Google Inc., the Hauser Foundation, H&R Block, Intel Corporation, the James Irvine Foundation, the Japan Bank for International Cooperation, the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation, the Levi Strauss Foundation, the Liberty Hill Foundation, the Lockheed Martin Corporation, McKinsey & Company Inc., the Microsoft Corporation, the Open Society Institute, Pew Charitable Trusts, the Ploughshares Fund, the Proteus Fund, the Public Welfare Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Samuel Rubin Foundation, Save the Children, Wendy and Eric Schmidt, Bernard L. and Irene Schwartz, the Silicon Valley Community Foundation, the Surdna Foundation, the George Wasserman Family Foundation, and the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation.
Board Members:
David Bradley, chairman and owner of the Atlantic Media Company and a member of the CFR
James Fallows, a correspondent for The Atlantic Monthly and former editor of U.S. News and World Report
Dr. Atul A. Gawande, former Clinton administration health-policy advisor, staff member of The New Yorker magazine, and director for the World Health Organization
Rita Hauser, founder of the Hauser Foundation, who has ties to the Palestinian Authority
Laurene Powell Jobs, wife of Apple CEO Steve Jobs
Kati Marton, former chair of the International Women’s Health Coalition, board member of the International Rescue Committee and Human Rights Watch, member of the CFR, and faculty member at Al Quds University (a Palestinian school in East Jerusalem)
Richard Medley, a former partner, managing director, and chief political advisor of Soros Fund Management
Daniel Yergin, the only foreign member of the Russian Academy of Oil and Gas, and a trustee of the Brookings Institution
Fareed Zakaria, host for CNN, editor of Newsweek International, and columnist for Newsweek and The Washington Post
NAF also maintains a robust fellowship program, partly funded by the Knight Foundation. Among NAF's fellows are:
Peter Beinart, former managing editor of The New Republic
Peter Bergen, CNN's national security analyst
Steven Clemons, board member of the Carnegie Council on Ethics and International Affairs
Parag Khanna, member of the Council on Foreign Relations, former fellow at the Brookings Institution, and former foreign policy advisor to the "Barack Obama for President" campaign in 2008
Daniel Levy, director of the Prospects for Peace Initiative at the Century Foundation and co-founder of J Street.
Mark Schmitt, former director of policy and research for U.S. Programs at the Open Society Institute and a current board member of the Proteus Fund
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:01 pm to Jim Rockford
As someone who's served in Afghanistan in 2001 and several deployments later on in the war, things have changed in the way we fight. The SF Col is just that Special Forces. Mattis was conventional forces. In the beginning things were chaotic and frankly just unorganized. A conventional medivac or commander is going to wait for the picture on the ground to be painted and have an understanding of what happened and what is happening before launching said Medivac. The AirForce Special Forces Helos that ended up completing the medivac were PJs and that's what they do. They launch into hot landing zones while troops are still under fire to conduct a rescue mission.
I was not on the mission in question nor do I have any knowledge of said mission but from what I have been able to read Mattis was following SOP. Now could he have made the decision to launch a medivac to get those soldiers yes he could have, but that's a judgment call that only He can say as to why he did or did not.
I was not on the mission in question nor do I have any knowledge of said mission but from what I have been able to read Mattis was following SOP. Now could he have made the decision to launch a medivac to get those soldiers yes he could have, but that's a judgment call that only He can say as to why he did or did not.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:43 pm to Jim Rockford
Dude is a member of a lib think tank. I'll take what he says with a grain of salt.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:39 pm to Jim Rockford
I read the S&S article. Just a BS hit piece.
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