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re: Starting Keto Tomorrow - I don't agree with the diet but I feel out of options

Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by Doldil
The Ham
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:37 pm to
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But what does this mean for after the diet?

I lose 20 pounds, go back to eating a balanced diet with less calories, I gain 10 pounds back of water weight?



you will definitely bloat up some after coming out of ketosis. For most people, a keto diet goes beyond simply being a way to lose weight, but their actual diet from that point forward. I'm currently eating carbs, and only a few pounds heavier than where I was before coming off of the keto diet.

I find once I start eating carbs again that I tend to binge eat them, but I was obese and didn't only have "20 extra pounds to lose" so it may not be as bad for you. I still stick to an IF schedule for eating because it helps me maintain my weight when I'm not eating keto (keto is tough when dating and going out regularly )

If you're only doing keto to lose a few pounds and then go right back to your old habits then you'll probably end up with that same 20 pounds to lose again after a few months unless you're really sticking with your "balanced diet with less calories" plan. but the water weight gain/loss is real when adding/removing carbs from your diet.
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
2957 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:38 pm to
Read up on eggs. They are your friend on keto but like anything, over do it and you'll tire of eating them.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32738 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:41 pm to
I've eaten 2 hard-boiled eggs and a black coffee every workday for breakfast for the past few years. It does sometimes get old.

To mix it up, scramble them with butter, chives and a little parm cheese.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33751 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:42 pm to
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I don't agree with the diet


Why not?

quote:

2 egg whites


Why not whole eggs?


Your menu seems a little limited to me. Need to add in some steaks/burgers as well as cheese.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33751 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:44 pm to
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Keto


I recommend you shoot for a "fat-adjusted" state rather than actually going into ketosis.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
104414 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:44 pm to
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I just gorge until I eat over my calorie limit
I lost 85 pounds last year. I kept track of my calories each day with an app and kinda planned my day out in my head. One thing I used was telling myself that I could not eat until a certain time and just made myself stick to it. It may sound hard but losing weight isn't easy for many people.

ETA: But lately, I've been going to the gym and trying to lift more and, in doing so, it's helpful to not be a stick figure so you may find the 20 pounds looks better on you if you get stronger.
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 3:46 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:48 pm to
Paleo >>> Keto
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32738 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:50 pm to
Whatever works for you. I try to stick to nsng, but food can be awesome. What's the point of life if something makes you miserable all the time?
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
2957 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:52 pm to
It's about finding what works for you and what you can live with. At times, low carb lifestyle sucks but not as much as obesity and diabetes would. Like everyone else said, not believing in what you are trying to do will make it very difficult to succeed.
Posted by BlackPot
Member since Oct 2016
2079 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:53 pm to
To satisfy the hunger you will get from all the lean meats, you need to throw some fattier protein in there, eat some steaks. homemade burgers with a fattier profile. Nuts, nuts, nuts that's what she said. They'll keep you feeling full.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:54 pm to
Ideal Protein >> Paleo >> Keto
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
18427 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Cracklin and Beef Jerky

this guy gets it. add chicken wings and Jameson and it's a recipe for success and happiness
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:55 pm to
My wife and I have been following a modified Paleo diet since July and we feel great. We've also been working out 3-4 days a week. The diet is pretty easy for me since its the way I already eat. No bread, grains or sugar has been a little rough. I'm not a big milk or dairy person so that was easy.

My wife is/was a huge cereal and milk person so that's her hump she needs to get over.

We eat all the meat and eggs we want which is the best part.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
146214 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:57 pm to
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Cracklin and Beef Jerky


Yep and all the bacon your little heart desires.
Posted by busbeepbeep
When will then be now?
Member since Jan 2004
18427 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:58 pm to
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Any Keto folks here that can critique/advise my diet plan?


check the info in the 1st post here

determine your target macros/deficit using the ketogains calculator. Use an app like myfitnesspal and track your meals.

You're going to want more fat than your sample menu.

Mix in some chicken thighs instead of breast. Eat the whole egg. Use coconut oil, avocado oil, ghee, etc for cooking.

Carrots aren't a keto friendly food.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31650 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:07 pm to
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hard to stick to something you don't believe in


i agree, but my wife sort of did it. she was semi all-in on the Ornish/raw bullshite, and finally just gave in.

As far as OP's menu, looks good. (didn't want to post twice so i'm just doing it here)

Red kale is higher in carb that other varietals.

And there are lower carb veggies than squash, but that's nit picking.

add bulletproof coffee. make sure to get lots of MCT oil. Same goes for electrolytes.

I recommend green tea or water with lemon, a shake of No Salt (potassium) and a shake of iodized sea salt.

it's actually an easy "diet" to follow even if you don't believe in it because you won't be hungry or bloated.

Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31650 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Ideal Protein >> Paleo >> Keto


helpful analysis.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31650 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:11 pm to
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Nuts, nuts, nuts


my nut hierarchy is:

macadamia
pecan
almond
walnut
brazil

i love peanuts, so i just eat them even though they're not a nut.

seeds:
hemp
flax
chia
sunflower



Posted by Oeauxface
Member since Oct 2016
58 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:12 pm to
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Ideal Protein >> Paleo >> Keto


Ideal protein is absolutely awful for you. My wife just did a rotation for Dietetics and most of the patients/customers just end of gaining the weight back pretty quickly. Not to mention the first month is basically designed to starve you. Youre not supposed to workout at all in the first month.

Also have a friend that has almost had to have his pancreas removed twice because he lives on the Keto diet. obv youre not supposed to live your life on any of these diets so thats part of it.

Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117769 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:14 pm to
Good luck. We're all counting on you.
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