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Are Top Lawyers Really Billing At $800/hr?

Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:47 pm
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:47 pm
I have a legal matter Im dealing with and my tax attorney referred to someone who is best suited for handling matters in regards to the petroleum marketing practices act and I got off the phone with him a little while ago and if he's going to take me on his billable hour is $800. Is this the real world? This is my first legal battle so Im not well versed on the hourly rates but my tax attorney is significantly less. What are realistic rates for commercial property attorneys in Texas?
Posted by GaryMyMan
Shreveport
Member since May 2007
13498 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 4:58 pm to
"Top laywers"? Yeah. That much and plenty more. Usually they're partners at places like V&E, Skadden Arps, etc. and they handle billion-dollar deals.

A decent-to-great lawyer shouldn't be more than $400/hr.
Posted by Wade Phillips
Member since Dec 2008
573 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:16 pm to
Experienced lawyers (i.e. the white hairs) at big law firms in Texas bill between $600-$1,200/hr (possibly rare circumstances where they bill more) depending on the practice area and specialties. You could request the less experienced partner that bills $500/hour, but you'll pay for them to spend hours figuring out what Gandolf already knew. You might find the relevant expertise in a small firm for a fraction of the rate, but it may take you a while to locate them.

- 3rd yr associate in a Texas firm.
This post was edited on 10/20/16 at 5:20 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37162 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:20 pm to
Top attorneys in NOLA bill at 800/hr? Bigger cities? More. I know several older men at large firms in Houston that are in the $1200 range, and in places like DC and NYC, $1500/hr is happening more and more.

But these are people working in huge deals with huge stakes on the line.
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35608 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 5:33 pm to
How much will it cost you if you lose?
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:04 pm to
A really good one? Sure, I can believe it and in certain situations it could be a bargain.

If you have a complex case it can be a very good deal since someone less experienced will take longer to figure out what the top guy knows by heart ... and might still get it wrong.

The problem of course is that you have no idea what you're getting.
Posted by PrettyLights
Member since Oct 2014
1163 posts
Posted on 10/20/16 at 7:50 pm to
Yes.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9652 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 10:44 am to
My brother is an Intellectual Property lawyer and he bills more than $800/hr
Posted by Wortivi22
Land of Mini Vans
Member since Dec 2007
855 posts
Posted on 10/21/16 at 11:04 am to
My opinion is based on if you think it will go to an actual courtroom/arbitration, or not. If this is something that will likely be settled, I would think $800/hr would be too high.

My experience is with my divorce attorney in Houston. He is very well known and because I know him personally, he cut me a "break," at $800/hr and had paperwork/filings done by a lower level attorney at his firm for $400/hr. He was worth every penny once we went to court and I would have been sorely disappointed in the lower level guy, if he was all I had in the courtroom.

Oh, and be prepared to put down a large amount up front to begin covering that hourly rate . . . an it will run out quick
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25491 posts
Posted on 10/24/16 at 11:08 am to
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Are Top Lawyers Really Billing At $800/hr? by dabigfella


No. They are billing at $1300/hr. But $800/hr should get you a very good lawyer. Also, the $800/hr lawyer will probably discount his rate if you press the issue.
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